AirT85
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TAESA: Thoughts And Memories?

Sun Dec 12, 1999 11:01 pm

Hello everyone! Recently, TAESA, a Mexican airline, had aDC-9 crash in Mexico and the airline shut-down....What happened to them. Weren't they once the proud, privately-held airline with B-757s/B-737s all brand-new? Why did they switch there fleet over to older DC-9s and other aircaft? Also, how were there finances? Does anyone have any memories of flying/working for them? I have flown on both Aeromexico and Mexicana, and i was looking forward to flying on TAESA...but i dont think i will be anytime soon  
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RE: TAESA: Thoughts And Memories?

Mon Dec 13, 1999 2:54 am

Hi,
As you said, TAESA started as a very promising carrier, having the newest fleet in Mexico. No older DC-9s or 727s, only new 737s and 757s/767s. It instantly became Mexico's 3rd major airline. This was in the early 90's. But as the years passed, TAESA's problem became evident, and it didn't take long for people to realize something was very wrong with this airline. What is this problem? Well, something that pretty much reflects a problem of Mexico itself: corruption. TAESA began with its well known extremely poor maintenance standards,
insufficient crew for the planes they had, etc. TAESA's directors did whatever they could think of so they could earn extra bucks for themselves, and they just didn't care if this meant poor safety for passengers and crew. That's why they eventually replaced their great fleet in favor of second-hand, old, cheap aircraft. Well, the fact is, NOBODY was surprised when they knew about the DC-9 crash. It's very common to hear "I think an accident like this had to happen to them sooner or later."

I could mention several other things about TAESA's terrible administration, but I think I've made that point clear. In my opinion, it's sad that the airline wasn't shut down until an accident that killed 18 people took place...
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mel
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RE: TAESA: Thoughts And Memories?

Mon Dec 13, 1999 5:51 am

Hi. I once flew Taesa back in 92 or 93, when I wasn't too much into aviation. We flew from Canada to Cozumel and back, with a stop in Cancun on the way back. It was a nice, brand new 737-500 that operated the route. All flights were on time, no problems there. The only thing I clearly remember about the aircraft was that seating was extremely tight. I think they jam packed 24 rows in that 735 (XA-RJS) with 3X3 seating. Not a typical layout for such a plane. We sat in row 22 on the way down, and row 1 on the way back up. What a difference in legroom!! It was a long flight as well, about 5 hours each way. Not a very pleasant experience, so I'm not too sad to see them go.
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david_mx
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RE: TAESA: Thoughts And Memories?

Mon Dec 13, 1999 12:09 pm

Something interesting on TAESA was the difference betwen the international and national images. The modern fleet was used for international routes while old -and i mean very old- 727's, 737's and DC-9 were used for domestic flights. Many people i know had a bad experience with TAESA.

I agree with AM about common listening of "an accident like this had to happen to them sooner or later."

 
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RE: TAESA: Thoughts And Memories?

Tue Dec 14, 1999 5:07 am

Thanks for the replies...just wanted to know a little more about them. I talked to my friends dad who worked or Mexicana for like 2 years, and he compares them to one of USA's most well-known(for all thw wrong reassons!) carriers...ValuJet. He says qoute..."TAESA Is the ValuJet of Mexico, just like Tower Air is the ValuJet of jumbojets" rather harsh i thought! but i think it is starting to fit that little qoute he gave me! Oh well, if anyone else wants to reply, (flyCMH!!!!   im waiting!) feel free to, love to hear more about his doomed-Mexican carier...
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RE: TAESA: Thoughts And Memories?

Tue Dec 14, 1999 7:29 am

I flew TAESA with my family from Columbus, Ohio nonstop to Cancun, Mexico. We left the day after Christmas of 1993, and returned after New Years. The flight was aboard one of their Boeing 737-300's. The flight was operated under Apple Vacations, but the flight crew were all Mexican TAESA employees.
Our departing flight from Columbus boarded without any problems. Before takeoff, the flight attendents distributed strawberry hard candies to all the passengers. It was a cold overcast morning, but the flight crew preformed a great takeoff. We soon broke cloudcover and were on our way to Cancun. For breakfast, there was a choice of either a cheese omelet, or apple quiche. The flight proceeded to Cancun and we flew over the hotel zone. Shortly after, the plane landed at Cancun and we disembarked the plane.
The return trip was an evening flight. The 737 rolled down the runway and as we turned away from Cancun, we witnessed as amazing sunset. The flight went on into the night and we were served a great dinner of pure white chicken, rice, salad and desert. Towards the end of the flight, the flight attendents had a raffle among the passengers for bottles of wine. As we approached Columbus, I watched as sleet rushed by my window. The flight ended perfectly with a nice landing and we approached the international arrivals area and left the plane.
I wish that TAESA could have continued the successful trek they had started. I had a great flight with them. Their fleet was a great mix of 737, 757, and 767 aircraft. Then, they just seemed to go in a downward spiral. It's too bad that 18 people had to loose their lives in that Mexico City crash. Maybe someday, we'll see the resurection of a new and better TAESA.
 
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RE: TAESA: Thoughts And Memories?

Tue Dec 14, 1999 12:18 pm

Hi!!

Let me tell you that TAESA did start very good, at first it was just an executive airline with 2 jets. It grew and bought 2 727's. Then it bought it's first 757 (you can see the photo here in airliners) and then they started to buy or rent 737's. It subsequently became a very cheap airline... Too cheap to imagine it to be real. And well their finances were not too good, so they started to rent the DC-9's and other older aircraft as 727's and 737's. It was known that their maintainance was poor as well as that they overcrowded their planes. Just imagine in a 737-300 there were 170 passengers in one flight. That's against the FAA rules. But well TAESA asked for it...

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