FLAIRPORT
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JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:46 am

rate these routes based on what you think the chances of them happening on B6 are... 0=never 10=definently.... if there is a chance, in your opinion,then put your guess on when they will do this route

JFK-Midway
JFK-ORD
JFK-DET
JFK-MSP
JFK-MIA
FLL-ATL
ATL-JFK
SJU-FLL
MSY-LGB
LGB-HNL
LGB-OGG
OAK-OGG
OAK-HNL
SEA-ANC
SEA-HNL
SEA-OGG
HNL-OGG
ANC-FAI
SEA-LGB
LGB-TPA
JFK-IAD
JFK-BOS
FLL-HFD
FLL-MCO in the new EMB
FLL-TPA
JFK-Nassau
JFK-YUL
JFK-YYZ
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WMUPilot
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:51 am

JFK-MDW = 5
JFK-ORD = 4
JFK-DET = 4
JFK-MSP = 5
JFK-MIA = 9
FLL-ATL = 0
ATL-JFK = 3
SJU-FLL = 9
MSY-LGB = 7
LGB-HNL = 0
LGB-OGG = 0
OAK-OGG = 0
OAK-HNL = 0
SEA-ANC = 0
SEA-HNL = 0
SEA-OGG = 0
HNL-OGG = 0
ANC-FAI = 0
SEA-LGB = 5
LGB-TPA = 7
JFK-IAD = 4
JFK-BOS = 8
FLL-HFD = 7
FLL-MCO in the new EMB = 3
FLL-TPA = 4
JFK-NAS = 7
JFK-YUL = 8
JFK-YYZ = 10
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luv2fly
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:08 am

rate these routes based on what you think the chances of them happening on B6 are... 0=never 10=definently.... if there is a chance, in your opinion,then put your guess on when they will do this route

JFK-Midway = 5
JFK-ORD = 0
JFK-DET = 0
JFK-MSP = 0
JFK-MIA = 0
FLL-ATL = 0
ATL-JFK = 5
SJU-FLL = 10
MSY-LGB = 5
LGB-HNL = 0
LGB-OGG = 0
OAK-OGG = 0
OAK-HNL = 0
SEA-ANC = 5
SEA-HNL = 0
SEA-OGG = 0
HNL-OGG = 0
ANC-FAI = 0
SEA-LGB = 8
LGB-TPA = 0
JFK-IAD = 0
JFK-BOS = 5
FLL-HFD ?
FLL-MCO in the new EMB = 10
FLL-TPA = 8/EMB service
JFK-Nassau = 2
JFK-YUL = 10
JFK-YYZ = 10
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timberwolf24
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:08 am

As for Chicago......MDW 1, ORD 9.
Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
 
prosa
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:22 am

I'll respond to the ones that I consider to be zeros (no chance):

JFK-MIA

B6 won't want to initiate a head-to-head battle with AA. It prefers to take the lead and make AA play catch-up, e.g. JFK-LGB.


LGB-HNL
LGB-OGG
OAK-OGG
OAK-HNL
SEA-HNL
SEA-OGG
HNL-OGG


Would need new ETOPS-certified a/c.
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
 
flynavy
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:25 am

B6 on an FLL-MCO routing would put them in direct competition with WN (and Delta Connection I believe).
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scottysair
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:07 am

I respond that will get with the vote on jetBlue to chance begin nonstop and here it go!

JFK-Midway = 9
JFK-ORD = 1
JFK-DET = 5
JFK-MSP = 10
JFK-MIA = 0
FLL-ATL = 10
ATL-JFK = 10
SJU-FLL = 10
MSY-LGB = 8
LGB-HNL = 10
LGB-OGG = 10
OAK-OGG = 10
OAK-HNL = 10
SEA-ANC = 10
SEA-HNL = 10
SEA-OGG = 10
HNL-OGG = 7
ANC-FAI = 9
SEA-LGB = 10
LGB-TPA = 10
JFK-IAD = 0
JFK-BOS = 0
FLL-HFD = 10
FLL-MCO in the new EMB = 10
FLL-TPA = 10
JFK-Nassau = 10
JFK-YUL = 10
JFK-YYZ = 10

Can you please comfirmed with city code is: HFD? Please leave it with their post for me. Thanks!  Smile
 
tekelberry
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:51 am

JFK-MKE may be a possibility.
 
prosa
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:52 am

Can you please comfirmed with city code is: HFD? Please leave it with their post for me.

The original poster probably meant BDL.
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
 
FLAIRPORT
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:58 am

I'm sorry... i didn't know Hartford's code... HFD-Hartford... i completely forgot that it was DL / KBDL), USA - Connecticut">BDL for bradley field or whatever.

SEA-HNL is not a choice, that was my bad, smae with SEA-OGG
ScottysAir, as much as i agree with you for the routings, i don't think that Neelman is thinking like us!

HNL-OGG is 100 miles, so ETOPS is not an issue, but i can see why it would look odd.

AS FAR AS MY OPINION:
JFK-Midway= 10... very soon
JFK-ORD = 10... unless they go to midway
JFK-DET = 3... good route, but Flint might work as well
JFK-MSP =10... good support for a city without it
ADDED: MSP-LGB = 8... with space, a good route
JFK-MIA =5... Miami just fits B6 in my opinion
FLL-ATL =10... i think it is a very profitable route. Although DL removed flghts, they are all 767-300 or -400's
ATL-JFK=10 SONG
SJU-FLL=10... good route?
MSY-LGB= 10... good route!
LGB-HNL=3 (7 for codeshare) it will happen
LGB-OGG=3 see above
OAK-OGG see above
OAK-HNL see above
SEA-ANC 7... it will happen. with the new "iceberg Blue"  Big grin
HNL-OGG 2 (7 with codeshare) i can see a big codeshare
ANC-FAI- 7, see SEA-ANC
SEA-LGB 8... if room opens up
LGB-TPA 6... only to take on SONG
JFK-IAD 10... jetBlue Shuttle
JFK-BOS see above
FLL-DL / KBDL), USA - Connecticut">BDL 6 Song stopper
ADDITION: PBI-DL / KBDL), USA - Connecticut">BDL 6 SONG stopper
FLL-MCO in the new EMB 10 jetBlue Express
FLL-TPA see above
JFK-Nassau 8... same type of route as JFK-SJU
JFK-YUL 10 Neelman is probably thinking: OH CANADA!!!!!
JFK-YYZ 10
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Jeff G
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:13 am

JFK-Midway = 0
JFK-ORD = 10
JFK-DET = 0
>JFK-DTW = 5
JFK-MSP = 4
JFK-MIA = 0
FLL-ATL = 4
ATL-JFK = 7
SJU-FLL = 8
MSY-LGB = 1
LGB-HNL = 0
LGB-OGG = 0
OAK-OGG = 0
OAK-HNL = 0
SEA-ANC = 1
SEA-HNL = 0
SEA-OGG = 0
HNL-OGG = 0
ANC-FAI = 0
SEA-LGB = 3
LGB-TPA = 2
JFK-IAD = 3
JFK-BOS = 1
FLL-BDL = 6
FLL-MCO in the new EMB = 2
FLL-TPA = 2
JFK-Nassau = 8
JFK-YUL = 9
JFK-YYZ = 9

Midway = no way
 
FLAIRPORT
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:39 am

i apologise for some of these "airport codes"... I'm kinda in baseball mode and everything is the first 3 letters
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Midway2AirTran
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:15 am

Some random selections...

LGB-RDU=7 Lots of talk about this one believe it or not!
JFK-CLT=6
LGB-ORD=8
JFK-ORD=7
JFK-MDW=4
LGB-MDW=3 MDW has plenty of lowfare competition, WN too, go for ORD!
JFK-DFW=7
JFK-STL=6
JFK-FNT=6

The EMB 190's aren't coming till 2005, so I won't bother guessing on those!!
"Life is short, but your delay in ATL is not."
 
MAH4546
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:32 am

I would not rule out JFK-MIA for a few reasons. First off, jetBlue's second biggest frequent flier base is in the Miami area. With eleven year-round dailies to JFK (more in the winter), two dailies to Dulles, and a second daily to Long Beach starting 8 September (only four months after the inagural), they are huge here. FLL-OAK is also in the pipeline, and rumours are it will be ready for Christmas. Three daily MIA-JFK flights would compliment the FLL service very nicely, and would fill easily. MIA is spending $600,000 this year and for two more years to lure new international and low-fare carriers, including jetBlue. They are offering zero incentives though, just clever marketing, and they are targeting jetBlue. We'll see what happens. Reasons not to expect jetBlue at MIA? Besides the obvious fact that MIA is a congested airport that does not fit the jetBlue personna, the biggest reason is clearly American Airlines. Though they have many more markets to look at before ever coming to MIA.
a.
 
FLAIRPORT
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:08 am

so that explains why 1x daily LGB-ATL... 1 of the slots is going LGB-FLL... but the other no one knows?
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flyyul
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:35 am

Why is everybody so confident that YUL-JFK or YYZ-JFK would be a "for sure" for B6?

B6 could easily tap the HUGE florida markets out of Montreal and Toronto to FLL. With B6's low-fares and brilliant service, they could blow others on the route (SG/AC/TS etc.)


Mark
 
dsuairptman
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:47 am

I could see B6 operating a MSY-LGB at least a few days a week.

The would be going agiansit UAL and WN to the LA area, so I'm not so sure they would make it a daily frequency.
GEAUX SAINTS!
 
MAH4546
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:53 am

I agree with FLYYUL, any Toronto and/or Montreal service would be to Ft. Lauderdale, not JFK. I could also see potential for a YYZ-LGB redeye service. Both Toronto and Montreal are well served from New York City. The same way they bypassed JFK with Dulles and Atlanta service, I see the same with any service they propose to Montreal and/or Toronto.
a.
 
cmckeithen
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:02 am

JFK-Midway 0
JFK-ORD 8
JFK-DET 0
JFK-MSP 4
JFK-MIA 10
FLL-ATL 3
ATL-JFK 8
SJU-FLL 3
MSY-LGB 0
LGB-HNL 0
LGB-OGG 5
OAK-OGG 3
OAK-HNL 0
SEA-ANC 0
SEA-HNL 0
SEA-OGG 4
HNL-OGG 0
ANC-FAI 0
SEA-LGB 0
LGB-TPA 0
JFK-IAD 4
JFK-BOS 0
FLL-HFD 2
FLL-MCO in the new EMB 1
FLL-TPA 1
JFK-Nassau 1
JFK-YUL 1
JFK-YYZ 1

Some of these routes are long haul flights and Jet Blue operates A310's and A320's. Thoes are short to medium range planes.
 
luv2fly
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Mon Jul 21, 2003 8:18 am

Cmckeithen

JetBlue only flies the A320.
You can cut the irony with a knife
 
pilot727aa
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RE: JetBlue City Chances

Mon Jul 21, 2003 8:23 am

Does anyone know about JetBlue serving DFW any time soon?

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