flyboy80
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American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:45 am

Hey all, The last time I was down in MIA was in 02, anyways, when I was there obviously I saw a lot of American Eagle ATRs. I was wondering if AE still flys the ATR aircraft? If so, what types? How much longer will they be around? Also, I believe that they are not aculty american eagle aircraft, they are from some other airline (or airlineS) doing business with American, operating under the AE banner... Some INFO is greatly appriciated.
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:44 am

I can speak for the caribbean. American Eagle is operated by Executive Air in this region. They operate both ATR42/72 based in San Juan.

If I am not mistaken Executive Air also does the operations from South Florida to the Bahamas. Someone will have to back me up on that.
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:52 am

I believe that all AE MIA ATR ops are run by Executive Airlines. They provide service from their hubs in SJU and MIA to destinations in Florida, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:22 am

All of the ATRs (42, 72 in various series) are run by the operating division Executive Airlines. Their hubs are Miami and San Juan. The furthest north they get is Jacksonville, Florida. They will be around with ATRs indefinately.
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:42 am

Is there a website for Executive Air?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Can't seem to find it anywhere.





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flyboy80
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:06 am

Great Info so far folks... Keep it commin! thanks!
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:52 am

I know that pre 9-11 AE operated a frequency to SAV on a weekend, then daily basis. Does this route still operate from MIA?
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:52 am

Executive Airlines is owned by AMR. It was a spin-off from Eagle, but was Executive before merging into Eagle. They tried to sell it but nobody bought.

What other info are you expecting? I think all of your questions as posed have been answered.
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:54 am

I know that pre 9-11 AE operated a frequency to SAV on a weekend, then daily basis. Does this route still operate from MIA?

No, SAV is no longer a station. DFW-SAV has ended as well.
 
flyboy80
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:59 am

Well Im interested to know if there is any info from AMR about the retirement of these aircraft. Also, How many are ATR 42s, and how many are 72s?
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:06 am

In 1999, JFK-DCA was ATR 42s.
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:19 am

I've inquired about when AE would bring in RJ's and it seems the ATR's are here indefinitely. Their cargo hold is much bigger than the RJ's. I'd love to see them add some RJ routes in MIA because anyone that has flown in Florida in the Summer dodging those massive thunderstorms will tell you that that is NOT fun!!
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:19 am

Well Im interested to know if there is any info from AMR about the retirement of these aircraft. Also, How many are ATR 42s, and how many are 72s?

There is no information on the retirement of these aircraft. There isn't really a good replacement available at this time.

There are 17 ATR-42 aircraft, 30 ATR-72 (with 64 seats), 12 ATR-72-212A (68 seats and more prop blades) plus four ATR-42 which are parked.
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:41 am

Executive Airlines is owned by AMR. It was a spin-off from Eagle, but was Executive before merging into Eagle. They tried to sell it but nobody bought.

Actually, they sold it to a Puerto Rican businessman to make sure they could keep a contract with thier pilots. That was back in 11/02.

http://news.airwise.com/stories/2002/11/1036609247.html
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 7:04 am

Tekelberry,
If you read the article, it doesn't say it was sold. It says:
The company has not said how much it will realize from the sale which is expected to go through next year.

It didn't happen.
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:07 pm

When the scope clause was relaxed, the sale of Executive did not go through. It is still a part of AMR. The whole purpose for the intended sale of Executive was to reverse codeshare to avoid having the ASM's fall under Eagle's capped limit.

ATR's used to dominate the ORD hub before it when all RJ back in 99
The -72's were recently used in DFW until the CRJ's came online.

No RJ's in SJU for the forseeable future.
RJ's in MIA will be used for Northern feed, like PIT, IND, etc. The ATR's will be used on the shorter Florida, and Bahamas routes.
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:14 pm

Also a majority of the 42's are being phased out and sold to FEDEX (along with COEX's) for freighter conversion. But the 72's are here to stay for alteast the for see able future.
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:40 pm

Also...

The ATR's make more sense operationally in MIA and SJU than do RJs. I shudder to think of an ERJ attempting MHH or ELH on a hot day... Or any day for that matter. Many of the airports visited by the AE ATRs out of SJU are similar to the small Bahamian fields and would not support RJ operations.
 
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RE: American Eagle's ATRs

Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:00 pm

Given the fact the ATR-72 can operate out of relatively short runways, they will continue to be a staple of operations out of MIA and SJU to various smaller islands in the Caribbean. A lot of the smaller Caribbean islands have runways that are just a bit too short to support an ERJ145 or CRJ200.