b727
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Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:18 pm

Back in the late summer of 1979 I flew from JFK to SYR on DARK red plane, as only being 6 years old I do not remember the airline or type. I do remember it was a narrowbody aircraft. We flew from Austria to JFK on KLM and connected into SYR on this mystery airline. Any help would be greatfully appreciated in identifying this airline and aircraft.

I want to say this was a TWA flight but I am not 100 % sure.


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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:26 pm


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All of these pictures were taken at Syracuse NY. Hope it helps.
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b727
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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:35 pm

Thanks Cedarjet,

But the entire aircraft was painted a soild dark red color. If i remember right I belive all the lettering was white.


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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:38 pm

Could it have been Apple Airways (or some similar name?). I remember their planes were Red with maybe a dark orange stripe down the middle.

If I have time- I'll look it up.
 
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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:40 pm

What about one of these beauties?


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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:48 pm

Was it New York Air ? Were they around in '79 ? I vaguely remember seeing them in ROC long time ago.

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b727
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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:09 am

United Fan.

I believe it looked just like the NewYork Air picture that you posted. I dont believe BI flew into SYR but I am not 100% sure. But the NY Air looks the aircraft we flew on.

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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:13 am

I couldn't find any NYAir pics before 1980,though.
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b727
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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:17 am

I believe we went in 79 I will check with my father. Did NY Air fly into SYR?

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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:25 am

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Anyway, this question is a great example of what I refer to...

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RE: 1979 Flight Into SYR

Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:55 am

Looks like New York Air didn't exist in 1979.

7/79 OAG shows four flights a day JFK-SYR: two Allegheny DC-9s and two Empire Metros.

I'm no expert, but I'm guessing NY Air never flew to Syracuse. Or maybe JFK either?
 
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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Tue Jul 22, 2003 5:14 am

NY Air did not exist in 1979, I think they began operations in the early 1980s are flew from LGA/EWR to BOS and DCA, they did try some other destinations but Syracuse, to my knowledge was not one of them.

In 1979, a red airplane would suggest Allegheny, (the old name of US Airways), which had a red/burgudy livery and did fly between NYC and Syracuse (not sure about JFK, but certainly LGA)......DC9s, and BAC 111s were on the route.
 
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Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:11 am

 
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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:39 am

Has to be Allegheny/USair.

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RE: Need Help Identifying A 1979 Flight Into SYR

Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:45 am

Dutchjet,

As I remember we flew out of JFK to VIE on KLM, so I am guessing that we returned via JFK but I could be wrong. It sounds like Allegheny may have been the airline. The flight was late at night when we returned. And I do remember a dark red aircraft I believe with white markings. I will pull up some Allegheny photos tonight to check. Thanks everyone for the help. This is way I love Airliners.net everyone is willing to help each other out.

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