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SAS Choose A330/340

Sun Dec 19, 1999 3:32 am

SAS has chosen Airbus as the supplier of new aircraft for SAS intercontinental flights. The order comprises four A330-300 and six A340-300 aircraft. SAS holds options on seven more aircraft. The order is valued at about SEK 10 billion. During 2001-2004, the aircraft will successively replace the Boeing 767 as SAS's long-haul airliner.

"The order secures and develops our position as an intercontinental airline," announced Jan Stenberg, President of SAS. "We will capture market shares in the Scandinavian market for intercontinental traffic and also strengthen our total position in the Scandinavian market. The order also creates potential for further expansion of SAS traffic," Jan Stenberg added.

Airbus models A330-300 and A340-300 represent the very latest in modern aviation technology. Both aircraft have gained widespread popularity among passengers on routes where they have been placed in traffic.

The A330-300 and A340-300 are part of the same product family. The aircraft were developed in parallel, but fulfill different requirements. The A340 is capable of flying non-stop on the longest routes in the world, while the A330 is particularly well suited for transatlantic flights. The affiliation of both aircraft to the same product family provides several coordination advantages; crews can easily switch between the two models and maintenance can be coordinated.

In the SAS version, the A340 aircraft will offer seating capacity for 275 passengers, with 56 seats in business class and 219 in economy class. The A330 carries 278 passengers, 56 in business class and 222 in economy class. The seats in business class are arranged in the 2-2-2 configuration, with a 2-4-2 configuration in economy class. The aircraft's comfortable cabin seating has received the highest possible ratings in passenger opinion polls. The A340 is equipped with four engines, and the A330 has two.

The purchase continues SAS's renewal of its fleet of aircraft. When the new planes are placed in traffic, the number of seats available on SAS flights will increase by nearly 50 percent and freight capacity by 40 percent. Concurrently, cost per seat will be reduced by 20 percent. The order also reflects the expansion of SAS's intercontinental traffic. The expansion meets customer requirements and expectations on fast and direct flights between Scandinavia and intercontinental destinations, and will enable SAS to stay abreast of market growth.

SAS places considerable importance on environmental considerations. Low fuel consumption, low noise levels and environmentally compatible production were some of the requirements stipulated by SAS when the planes were ordered. Airbus meets all the requirements and conducts long-term programs to secure environmentally compatible production
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RE: SAS Choose A330/340

Sun Dec 19, 1999 6:23 am

The future long-haul airliners chosen by SAS are Airbus A340-300 and A330-300. Both models are part of the A330/A340 family. The two aircraft were developed jointly, and the first versions were delivered in 1993.

These models are extremely spacious, wide-body aircraft. The fuselage is 5.64 meters in diamters and the aircraft are equipped with ultra-modern electronics.

The A340-300 model chosen by SAS will have 275 seats, with 56 in business class and 219 in economy class. Business class seats are configured as 2-2-2, with a 2-4-2 configuration in the economy class compartment.

The A340-300 can travel non-stop over distances up to 8,500 nautical miles. The A340-300 has four engines, and the sound comfort level in the cabin is extremely favorable. The A340 has become very popular with passengers in all parts of the world. Passenger opinion surveys show the highest ratings for cabin comfort. The distance, or "pitch," between seat is 50 inches, or 1.25 meters in business class and 32/31 inches, or 80 cm, in economy class.

The overhead baggage compartment offers ample space. Compared with SAS planes now used for long-haul flights, the new Airbus models offers 36 percent more luggage space in business class and 20 percent more in economy class.

The A330-300 can fly non-stop over medium and long-haul routes. SAS has chosen to equip the planes with 278 seats, with 56 in business class and 222 in economy class. The seating configuration is the same, with 2-2-2 in business class and 2-4-2 in economy class. The cabin noise level is extremely low. The aircraft has two engines.

Both aircraft can be equipped with the latest on-board entertainment systems. They also offer a good work environment for airline employees.

Compared with the B767 now used by SAS for long-distance flights, the cargo hold in the new Airbus models will increase freight capacity by 40 percent.

Several airlines have Airbus A340s and A330s in their long-haul fleets of aircraft. Lufthansa, an SAS partner, has 20 A340s in traffic and has ordered a total of 41. Air Canada, also an SAS partner, has ordered 13, with 12 planes already in traffic. Singapore Airlines also has these models in its fleet.

Important dates in the development of A330/A340:

June 1987 A decision is made within Airbus to develop A330 and A340 as a joint project.
October 1991 Maiden flight of A340.
November 1999 Maiden flight of A330.
January 1993 First delivery of the A340
December 1993 First delivery of the A330
August 1999 551 confirmed orders from 56 customers for A330/A340 (267 orders for A330 and 284 orders for A340).
As of today - 278 aircraft's now in traffic all over the world
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RE: SAS Choose A330/340

Mon Dec 20, 1999 4:24 pm

What a good choice!

I am really looking forward, to fly on these new aircrafts. I have many times flown on SIA A340-300 and even on B747-400 to Singapore. And I must say, that even if the 343 is a smaller plane than 744, I think that it is much quiter.

So again, a good choice !
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RE: SAS Choose A330/340

Mon Dec 20, 1999 5:52 pm

SAS should take advantage of the A340's being sold by SQ to Boeing...it could be MUCH cheaper and faster!


RE: SAS Choose A330/340

Tue Dec 21, 1999 1:27 am

Translation: Airbus made them the better deal.

Please no bullshit about environmental responsibility or noise reduction. It's all about the $$$---

Furthermore, why order both the A330 and A340? They are practically the same plane. The 333 and 342 are in fact the EXACT same a/c. And why are they ditching the 767's so soon? Some of them have yet to break 10 years in age yet.

Now look for SAS to dump its 736's and replace the short haul fleet with 319/320 because no airline could EVER fly both Airbus and Boeing jets right?......



Tue Dec 21, 1999 2:32 am

you are wrong. the A333 and the A342 are not the same plane. The dimensions of the A340-300 is the same as the A330-300 and the same goes for A340-200 and the A330-200. The A330-200 has 10% less capacity than the A330-300 but can fly around 1000 miles more. The reason SAS chose the A330-300 and not the A330-200 is because the A333 will fly Scandinavia-US East Coast routes easily accessible within the A333's range with extra capacity. The 767 is too small to be the flagship on an airline the size of SAS. SAS could have very well ordered the 777 but the communality between the B777 and B767-400 is not as good as the Airbus duo. I think that decisoion is an excellent one for SAS and with 7 more option SAS can even go for the larger and even more advanced A345/A346. I do not think that SAS will replace its B737-600s with minibuses, the aircraft is ideal for their routes and as a DC-9 replacement. Eventhough they were dissapointed with Boeing's delivery delays and initial reliability, now all these problems are overcome.
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Tue Dec 21, 1999 2:57 am


you should read more books and magazines...

A330s and A340s are NOT the same planes. A340-300s just offer much more range than A330-300s, which I regard as a big difference.
By the way I hope you meant A343, as you wrote A342. In such a case, the difference would be even bigger (capacity difference).
The A330 will be flown on SAS's routes to Newark (or any other 8-9 hours flights) I guess, as on those routes the A340's range is not needed. And buying the A330 for that route means not having to buy the more expensive A340 for that route.
SAS's routes to Asia are often around 10-12 hours for which the A340 with its high range and around 260 seats in two classes fits perfectly. The A340's range also gives SAS a possibility to introduce new long haul routes which can't be flown by B763 actually.
B777s are too large for SAS, and the coming B767-400ER doesn't reach the A340's range by far.
I think the A340/330s just fit better for SAS's longhaul plans, so a good Airbus offer is not the only reason for the choice. What do you want with more than cheap B777s or B764s when they just can't be operated economically?
And SAS is not very satisfied with its B767-300ER currently, as they are too small for some routes, and they don't offer enough range on Asian routes if fully loaded. Maybe a reason why they stopped flying to HKG? I'm sure with the A340 arriving we'll find SAS back in HKG. Just wait.
By the way, the cargo space abord the B763 also is a reason for dumping them, as SAS wants to increase its cargo activities, along with Lufthansa.

What is the sense of your last sentence?
Many airlines fly a mixture of A and B, which often is the best choice. So don't write stuff, keep on the ground.
And if you can't use other words than "bullshit" in your posts, then better go to low-level forum, as this is a serious forum.

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RE: SAS Choose A330/340

Tue Dec 21, 1999 8:31 am

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Tue Dec 21, 1999 11:19 am

Would the deliveries of these aircraft and the freeing up of the 767-300s open up the possibility of a CPH-DEN 763 flight?
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RE: SAS Choose A330/340

Tue Dec 21, 1999 1:59 pm

As far as I know, the majority of the 763s are actually expected to be retained(I think 6) for use on low-density US flights and high-density Euro-flights, specifically LHR and several of the EWR flights.

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