marcos
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Delta To Central America

Tue Jul 29, 2003 9:25 pm

Was looking to book Delta Business Class from Atlanta to San Salvador on September 12. Much to my surprise, from September 1, Delta will only have 737-800's with economy class seats, not with Business Class cabin.

I checked their other routes out of Atlanta to Central America (Guatemala City, San Jose, Cancun, Panama and Business Class is still there. Anyone know why Delta is only flying planes with coach class to San Salvador?
 
Ealsys1
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:06 pm

Marcos,

The 738's are 2 class. You can book a first class seat if you want but single aisle aircraft are not configured for three classes.

Sam
 
gr8slvrflt
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:10 pm

It could be a former Shuttle craft.
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MAH4546
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:52 pm

No, a lot of 738s are one-class ex-Shuttle aircraft. The good part here is that they have a much nicer economy product than two-class planes, with more legroom and more comfortable seats.
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jhooper
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:02 am

One thing you should definitely watch for, is that Delta (and probably OALs too) markets their first class seats as business class on some flights using 757s. Just keep that in mind, because you might think you're getting Business Elite, but you aren't!
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dutchjet
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:09 am

Just a guess, in some medium-range markets, 2 class aircraft are sold as First/Economy and in other markets, the same 2 class aircraft will be sold Business/Economy....exact same aircraft, exact same seats, just depends on marketing, fares, and what the competition is doing.

This issue comes up from time to time with AA flights to the Carib, Central America, Venezuela and Colombia operated with 738, 757 and A300 aircraft.
 
exusair
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:16 am

Not very many people purchase the business class product, and SAL usually goes oversold in Y/C at 138 seats. I have worked a SAL flight in the past that was oversold by 80 and we went out with a few seats still available.

There seems to be a lot of ticket flexibility for DL's Latin American flights, hence the high no show factor. Why not use a shuttle a/c and sell 150 y/c seats rather than upgrade a lot of people into B/C because coach was oversold.
 
FLAIRPORT
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 10:33 am

DL's South/Central America and Mexico MAINLINE aircraft usage (airports as listed in parenthesis) This took a lot of time, so at least pretend it makes sense!

*= bizelite (?)
MEXICO:
-MEX: 2X 757 (ATL);757 (LAX)
-DL), Mexico">GDL 738 (ATL)
-CUN 763* (ATL

CENTRAL AMERICA- ALL ATL
-GUA 757
-SAL 738
-SJO 762 no bizelite
-PTY 738

SOUTH AMERICA
-CCS 738
-BOG 757


due to weather, I cannot finish, i will finish when the storm passes.
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FLAIRPORT
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:31 am

CONT.

-LIM 767-300*
-GRU- 767-300*

do they serve anywhere else? I think Buenos Ares, Argentina, but i couldn't find it on Delta.Com
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nickofatlanta
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:21 pm

They dropped EZE as well as GIG, but still fly to SCL with a 763.
 
klwright69
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:59 pm

I have got lots of miles on DL. Waiting to use them when they actually get around to serving UIO!
 
BestWestern
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:47 pm

Marcos is correct - from Sept 1st Business goes from San Slavador

DLY #DL 695 C D I Y B M H Q ATLSAL 1010 1144 738 LL0
K L U T
EFF 03AUG DIS 31AUG
DLY #DL 695 Y B M H Q K L U ATLSAL 1010 1144 738 LL0
T
EFF 01SEP DIS 30SEP
DLY #DL 695 Y B M H Q K L U ATLSAL 1013 1151 738 LL0
T
EFF 01OCT DIS 25OCT
DLY #DL 695 Y B M H Q K L U ATLSAL 1013 1251 738 LL0
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EFF 26OCT DIS 30NOV

And returns 01 December till 03 April

DLY #DL 695 C D I Y B M H Q ATLSAL 1005 1246 738 LL0
K L U T
EFF 01DEC DIS 03APR
You are 100 times more likely to catch a cold on a flight than an average person!
 
BestWestern
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:01 pm

You are 100 times more likely to catch a cold on a flight than an average person!
 
marcos
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RE: Delta To Central America

Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:14 pm

Thanks, EXUSAIR and BESTWESTERN. Hard to believe they can oversell the ATL-SAL by 80 pax and still leave with empty seats. Although no C class available at least the seat pitch will be good in coach. Glad DL flies to SAL. I can leave MSP at zero-dark thirty in the morning and be there in time for lunch!