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DC8 Pass. Srvc. Alive In U.S. !

Sun Dec 19, 1999 3:43 pm

Flying into BWI the other day I saw a DC8 62 operated by ATI awaiting it's load of passengers through the jetway.

It was not a freighter because the windows were not blocked out, and there was no cargo door. it was surely a charter as they have no scheduled runs as far as know.

I couldn't believe it. It is surely the last of it's kind.
 
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RE: DC8 Pass. Srvc. Alive In U.S. !

Sun Dec 19, 1999 4:44 pm

MAC charter? ATI used to fly these in Frankfurt for a while.
 
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RE: Registration

Sun Dec 19, 1999 6:57 pm

Hi JETPILOT,

Did you perhaps take down this aircraft's registration number, ie. N21CX, N41CX or N786AL? ATI have a number of DC 8's that are listed as current. For what its worth 259 DC 8's are in service, 157 have been scrapped, 64 are standing or in storage and 76 have been written off.

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RE: DC8 Pass. Srvc. Alive In U.S. !

Sun Dec 19, 1999 8:32 pm

Yes, this is VERY interesting. I dream of flying a passenger DC-8 for years. Applying for the US Military is one step too far, though...
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RE: DC8 Pass. Srvc. Alive In U.S. !

Mon Dec 20, 1999 11:46 am

That is more than likely a US military charter using the "BWI gateway" for Air Mobility Command, (otherwise called MAC prior to 1993...Grin)

It's possibly the run from BWI to Lajes-Aviano-Sigonella-Incirlik or the Run to Mildenhall, UK or the run to Frankfurt. You may want to check the McGuire AFB website as they are the ones who operate this detachment I believe. They moved the "MAC Gateway" from Philly to BWI a few years ago and you'll see this type of aircraft in service.

In the Far East we had a similar run from Guam to Travis AFB in CA as well, it would originate at Travis-Hickam, Hawaii-Guam/Andersen AFB-Kadena-Guam-Hickam-Travis. That used an International CharterXpress DC-6-62 Combi, passengers in the back, cargo up front.

ICX used a very similar livery to ATI if I'm not mistaken so it's possible the same airplanes used in that service are the ones in this one. Are they boarding from the front doors or the rear?

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RE: DC8 Pass. Srvc. Alive In U.S. !

Thu Dec 23, 1999 2:47 pm

They were boarding the aircraft from the front doors..

Why?
 
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RE: DC8 Pass. Srvc. Alive In U.S. !

Thu Dec 23, 1999 3:13 pm

Was ATI operating this back in '75?.

I recall flying a TWA 707 from JFK to Milan en route to a 2 year assignment at the 509th Airborne Combat Team based at Vicenza Italy.

In 75 at the conclusion of my tour I recall taking a charter from Aviano AFB to Mildenhall UK to McGuire AFB--would this have been an ATI DC8? I must confess when I boarded whatever I boarded I was certainly not legal to drive after a lengthy farewell celebration--I am still amazed I got up steps on my own power! I think I slept 90% of that flight!

Anybody know what I flew sometime in August 75 from Aviano AFB to McGuire NJ?? Maybe it was the stretch 8!

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RE: DC8 Pass. Srvc. Alive In U.S. !

Thu Dec 23, 1999 6:24 pm

ATI wasn't in business back in 1975. Airlines like World Airways, Trans International etc. were often used in the seventies for MAC-flights. They both used DC 8-63s for long-haul charters. But it might have been almost anything, like a Pan Am jumbo or 707. MAC just charters aircraft of civil aircarriers. Braniff was often used in the Vietnam-era, like ATI is in the last ten years.
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