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Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:32 am

Looking through older pictures from London-Stansted I saw that a few major or better full-service airlines used to serve that airport. When did they all pull out of there and make STN a lowcost and leisure airport?


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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:43 am

Here are just a few pictures of full-service airlines at STN:

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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:57 am

Good riddance, the so-called 'real' airlines offered fares which were uncompetitive at the time.....
 
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Tue Aug 05, 2003 8:21 am

Don't forget:

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And:

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Yes, I know this one was taken a while ago but they also flew 747s, including STN-JFK.
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Tue Aug 05, 2003 8:25 am

Aer Lingus also left stansted about two years ago to "focus activities on Heathrow, City and Gatwick".

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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Tue Aug 05, 2003 8:38 am

DoorsToManual,
I replaced the "real" but didn't want to go against what you wrote. Thank you for your reply anyways.

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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:03 am

I belive Braathens pulled out of Stansted like 8-10 years ago. I belive they pulled out after Braathens and British airways had a frequent flyer agreement/arrangement. If I'm not mistaken Braathens then moved all their London-flights from Stansted to Gatwick.

SAS operated flights from all 3 Scandinavian capitals (Oslo, Copenhagen and Stockholm) to both Heathrow and Stansted. Approx 2 years ago they stopped their flights from Oslo to Stansted, but I'm not shure if all CPH and ARN-flights have moved also.
 
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:09 am

El Al still flies to Stansted daily except Thursday and Saturday with 757s. I do remember the JFK-STN flights. I flew that route with them back in 1998.
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:59 pm

The full service airlines only came to Stansted for one reason.

to fight the low cost carriers away from the routes.

LH fought Go, and then Ryanair on all competitive routes, matching Fares, Frequency and capacity - and then gave up!

SK fought Go and then Ryanair on all competitve routes, matching fares, frequency and capacity - and then gave up!

EI have come and gone from Stansted a number of times. Expect to see them back some time soon.

AY only ever operated charters to London, but nearly operated scheduled following Buzzs entry into the market.

Luxair, CSA and ELAL still operate scheduled services
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:10 pm

Full Fare airlines no longer operating from STN not already mentioned include American Airlines, Highland Express (STN-PIK-JFK), KLM uk and excel.

Airlines regualrly operating to STN are;

Ryanair - Easyjet - Iceland Express - Norwegian.no - Britannia - Luxair - CSA Czech Airlines - Air Berlin - Basiq-Air - Mytravel - Kibris Turkish Airlines - Germanwings - Air Adriatic - Atlantic Airways - Aurigny - Flying Finn - British Airways - Cyprus Airways - Eastern Airways - Air 2000 - El Al - SkyEurope Airlines

Also Cargo operators include Atlas and UPS

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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:23 pm

EW stopped flying to STN at the same time LH decided to pull out of the airport. This was during the first round of route and fleet rationalizations within the LH group in late 2001.

While LH's intentions to fly to STN may have been already portrayed pretty accurately, IMO the reason why EW pulled out was not due to the competition of LCC's, because at that time, Eurowings did not compete directly or indirectly (i.e. via a nearby airport) with any low cost airline.
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:23 pm

No one mentioned Continental's 757 STN-EWR service that got cancelled post 11/09? Odd.

Lufthansa did indeed start up all routes that were served from Stansted by other low cost airlines, and a few more, at (back then) spectacularly low fares. One of the results was that their GBP 64.00 student fare on LON-MUC was cancelled in favour of widely available STN-MUC fares (GBP 78.00 - back then Go's cheapest fare was GBP 80.00). Go retreated from MUC for a year, and other low-cost airlines suffered too. Lufthansa then let (or made?) British Midland operate most of these routes, but when the LCCs returned with a vengeance (Go started offering GBP 55.00 fares after they returned), they pulled out. Oddly enough, their student fares never returned (at least not in the UK, AFAIK)....

Scandinavian still serve STN, I believe, and so does TK, LG, OK, LY.

Stansted is actually the most convenient airport for Cambridge & other places, so I honestly think it has some potential for LCY-like full frills, full fare regional operations.
 
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:41 pm

SAS left, they're not at STN anymore. I remember pulling up next to one of their NG737s, so it must have been back in 2000/1 when they left.

The only Scandinavian airlines operating are Norwegian to OSL, and Flying Finn to HEL (the latter is certainly not a low-fares airline, but judging by the queues at check-in, Finland seems to be 'the' place to go, this summer).

I keep saying it, but I really miss the buzz flight to HEL....60 pounds there & back, can you understand what a bargain that is? Hopefully FR might bring TMP to STN at some point.

Unfortunately, the rail link to London, the Stansted..ahem..."Express", in true British fashion, is outrageously expensive and often late/delayed/breaks down/makes multiple stops enroute.

Shame, I've always found STN a pleasant experience (except at 0500 hours...)
 
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:10 pm

was the BA 757 a one off visit or a regular service?

I had a very pleasant flight to Prague on CSA from STN last year.

Are the STN business lounges empty these days?
 
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:16 pm

erm.. one you forgot: Air Malta also do Stansted, as well as LHR and LGW
 
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:56 pm

Now that Buzz are gone, is there any quality left?!

It's a good thing to keep a mix of full-frill and low-cost companies - it gives passengers choice and is really the only fair way to judge if passengers prefer the cheaper tickets [even though recent investigations show many LCCs are more expensive than full-service] or the full service.

Stansted is special in how it achieves this. Also, what services to BA operate from Stansted?

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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:01 pm

Now that Buzz are gone, is there any quality left

Mmmm, maybe Germanwings, Air Berlin, Air 2000, CSA.

Would love to fly Iceland Express or Sky Europe (or even Flyin Finn), but don't have the cash presently.
 
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:01 pm

BA operate to MAN as far as I know.

If BA's Gatwick B737 operation goes single class allocated seating with a brand as good as the much misssed Go-Fly, would they be back at STN?
 
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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:08 pm



BA's service to MAN was transferred to Eastern Airways.

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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:17 pm

Two other full service carrier that operated to STN:

Swissair operated twice daily ZRH - STN for a season in 1999, which was operated by a flightline 146 as Go had announced commencement of services STN - ZRH and GVA


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In the 90's Aviaco (Iberia) also operated to Stansted briefly - Santander i understand.

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RE: Full-Frills Airlines Pulling Out Of Stansted

Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:46 pm

Is Santander a likely Ryanair destination from STN?

What about Vittoria and San Sebastian aswell?

or are flights to BIQ, PUF and Bilbao enough for this corner of France/Spain?