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BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:27 am

Can anyone fill me in on BA's current operations at IAH? I've checked their timetables and can't get a solid, definitive result.

If I am not mistaken, BA used to have a daily 744 from LGW-IAH, and also flew an additional 777 three or four days a week. Now, it looks like they've switched to a 777 daily. Are they still operating 2 daily flights on certain days? If so, with a 777 or 744? BA's website doesn't seem to provide a good answer.
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:37 am

BA's current timetable shows the following:

1 daily 777 nonstop to Gatwick, leaving IAH at 4:05pm.
1 777 Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday nonstop to Gatwick, leaving at 7:35pm.
1 daily 777 one-stop to Heathrow, with a stop at O'Hare, leaving at 5:15pm.

Their timetable is available at http://www.britishairways.com

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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:57 am

I had no idea that there was a daily one-stop to LHR via ORD. Is this common in BA's domestic markets? I know LH used to fly FRA-DFW-IAH, but now both DFW and IAH have their own daily flights.
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:10 am

I had no idea that there was a daily one-stop to LHR via ORD.

The one-stopper exists because BA cannot serve IAH-LHR nonstop due to Bermuda II restrictions.
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:13 am

I think AA operates similar one-stoppers via JFK, ORD and/or MIA. I can't believe DEN got approval for LHR flights while DFW and IAH didn't!
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:22 am

i thought that the IAH-LHR route stops at IAD rather than ORD....i know it used to at least but wasnt aware of it recent routings.
 
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:25 am

The IAH-IAD-LHR was a 744 the first six months of operation.
It is a miserable flight flight compared to the nonstops---even in Club World.
Plus, LGW is so much more civil than Heathrow for morning arrivals.
 
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:28 am

According to the timetable at BritishAirways.com, it goes through ORD.
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:29 am

The LHR-ORD-IAH (formerly via IAD) on the 744 was introduced mainly to cater for transit pax on to Lagos when the LOS service moved to LHR from LGW & also to introduce the 4 class service on a route that is in BAs top 5 in terms of profitability. The LHR service remains on the 744 whilst the 10 weekly LGWs are on the 777 & 4 class service will be introduced within the next 10 days on the route from LGW. IAH is BA's prime market after JFK to the US in terms of premium traffic. Several companies (mostly oil related) block book seats in F & J & pay for those seats whether they use them or not. These deals give the companies involved flexibility without using exec aircraft & cover much of BAs overheads for the route......any other traffic (&there's a lot!!) is very much the icing on the cake for BA. Must also say that BAs ground staff on IAH are certainly the most friendly & efficient, certainly in the US if not on the whole network.....they beat DFW hands down for example.

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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:33 am

I can't believe DEN got approval for LHR flights while DFW and IAH didn't!

There was no permission. Under BII, DEN can be served from LHR if only one carrier is flying DEN-LON. Same with PHX. Since CO flies IAH-LGW, BA cannot fly IAH-LHR.
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:35 am

But doesn't BII restrict the airports from which airlines can fly to LHR? For example, AA is allowed to fly to LHR, but not from DFW, correct?
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:04 am

Edina,

Slight correction, the BA 294/295 from IAH-ORD-LHR is a 777 not a 744 as stated. In fact although the initial LHR-IAD-IAH was a 744, it later was downgraded to a 777.

I have flown both flights through IAD and ORD, and all three times, the flights were really light on the IAH-ORD sectors. In fact last week there were only 3 J pax continuing from ORD to IAH.
 
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:08 am

Having watched BA go from a daily DC-10 to 17 weekly 777 flights, I have always been fairly amazed at how much and how quickly the Houston market has developed for British Airways. I can vouch for the route's outstanding profitability through discussions I have had with various BA and airport staff. Like has already been said, all flights will be four class 777s in the near future, which will serve all the more to send profits soaring. The demand for premium services is certainly there. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see LGW-IAH go true double daily before too long.

I have wondered what will happen in the event of LHR opening up. Obviously LHR-IAH is a no brainer, considering the trouble they are going through to fly it right now. But it seems that LGW-IAH has developed into a market unto its own, so I can't help but wonder if LGW-IAH will survive even in the event of LHR becoming accessible.

Either way, I love being able to see three BA 777s on the ground at IAH some times...it's a cool sight I would not have imagined just a few years ago. Now if only KLM would follow suit!

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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:08 am

That makes sense; I'm surprised that BA flies this route daily. With a daily non-stop to LGW and four more weekly nonstops to LGW, I would think that IAH passengers could deal easily with reduced schedules to LHR.
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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:18 am

Well, those Lagos pax seems to have BA at their beck and call. Many people make the LOS-LON-IAH flight, and most of them are paying high yield premium prices either on their own or through their companies (mostly oil, who take no issue with paying astronomical business and first fares). It was no problem when both Houston and Lagos were at Gatwick, but with Lagos now at Heathrow (not to mention all of the other oil heavy destinations like Aberdeen, Tashkent, etc), I see their reasoning in offering the LHR-ORD-IAH flight. Loads may be light, but I bet those few pax up front are paying ridiculously high fares that might just make the flight worthwhile.

Which isn't to say that BA finds the LHR flight to be fun or convenient or the best they can offer- I am sure when the opportunity knocks, LHR-IAH will become a reality within minutes.

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RE: BA's Operations At IAH?

Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:38 am

"Now if only KLM would follow suit!

I'll say! It was really hard for me to secure a seat on the AMS-IAH flight later this month. The flights always seem to be full. If BA can do it, I'm sure KL can. KLM kind of already serves IAH twice a day with their code share on the daily CO AMS-IAH flight. I'm sure though a second AMS-IAH flight on KLM metal would work just fine if CO and KL strengthen their alliance.

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