osteogenesis
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A340-500 Vs. 777-200LR

Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:18 am

Does somebody know how many of this models have been sold, and does somebody know since when they are for sale?

 
ConcordeBoy
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RE: A340-500 Vs. 777-200LR

Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:19 am

I answered your question the first time... dont know why you felt the need for an additional form

anyways:

A345 was launched November 1997

It has orders from Emirates, Thai, ILFC, and Singapore Airlines. It also had two orders from Air Canada, but that airline deferred theirs shortly before delivery.


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772LR was originally launched in February 2000 but was suspended with only 10% engineering completed in September 2001. It was later relaunched with higher range/payload specifications in November 2002.

It currently has 3 orders from EVA Airways and 2 from Pakistan International Airlines. No word yet on whether those airlines will take the highest MTOW "tanked" option... but it's expected that they will.
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osteogenesis
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RE: A340-500 Vs. 777-200LR

Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:24 am

Your answer came later! I thought I needed a bigger audience to find out.

Do you know the numbers on those A340-500 orders?

This would mean a 5 year advantage for the A340-500. Was the 777-200LR a reaction to the A340-500?
 
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RE: A340-500 Vs. 777-200LR

Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:26 am

With the seemingly low number of orders that both aircraft, especially the 777, have, who are the other carriers that are looking at these aircraft? I know a lot of you hate rumors, but the numbers of orders for both aircraft are very low, neither having a large launch order. Were these aircraft cheap to develop considering they have different versions of the same aircraft? Where do Airbus and Boeing break even?

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ConcordeBoy
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RE: A340-500 Vs. 777-200LR

Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:45 am

Was the 777-200LR a reaction to the A340-500?

Nope. I suggest you read this brilliant article written by Alain Mengus for information on the launch of the 777NGs



who are the other carriers that are looking at these aircraft?

  • Both SA and JL are reportedly assessing the need for NRT-JNB nonstops... could lead to A345 and 772LR sales respectively

  • TN once announced interest in A345 for PPT-CDG nonstop

  • MH, UA, QF were the three customers most interested in the original 772X proposal..... however, the former two have since gone through financial turmoil; and the latter chose the A388/centralized-hubbing over the 772LR/direct-nonstops for now.

  • QR has recently chosen A346 as its 350seater, but says 772LR still in the running against A345 for its upcoming 300seater order... despite lack of any other Boeings in their fleet.
  • Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre c'est impossible sans Concorde!

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