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Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:33 am

What route did Eastern fly from LAX. I remember seeing L1011 tristar, A300 and 757 flying in and which terminal did they did they use. I thought it was T6 but photos shows that they use T3, but I remebered them using T6.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:46 am

For a long time they flew just to Atlanta. I recall them using T-3, same as TWA. Later they probably flew A-300's overnight to Houston when they had a short-lived overnight service through a Houston hub. It was carry-on luggage only as the belly was entirely for cargo.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:15 am

Eastern first got ATL-LAX authority in 1969 (before that only Delta flew the route.) They started off flying Stretch DC8s, then moved to a mix of L1011s and 727-200s in the mid-1970s.

I'm pretty sure Eastern flew out of T6, at least initially. Until Deregulation, that was the "everybody else" terminal at LAX, housing Continental, Delta, PSA, and Hughes. All the others were leased to a single airline (3 to TWA, 4 to American, 5 to Western, and 7/8 to United) who could then sub-lease if they wished. That's how Texas International ended up at T7 and Mexicana at T5.

 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:18 am

Eastern flew from LAX to several destinations over the years including ATL, IAH, MCI, JFK, but not all at the same time - the routes changed as Eastern adjusted its route network. Most services to ATL operated with 1011/A300 aircraft as did the services to JFK.

Eastern, in one its boldest and costliest moves, entered the JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO markets with their Eastern Transcon service.....AA, TW, and UA, which controlled those routes for decades were not amused, fare wars developed and EA reduced and then eliminated the service.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:37 am

Some comments on the above:

Eastern actually began Atlanta Los Angeles with 727-100s. I believe the flights continued on to Ontario for a while. Moonlight Special flights originally went to Houston Intercontinental but were later changed to Chicago O'Hare. Eastern also flew Los Angeles to Miami for many years, eventually using DC-10s. Philadelphia was served nonstop with 757s. There were also nonstop flights to Orlando. I can't quite remember but I think there were also Los Angeles - San Francisco flights as continuations of Trans Cons (I might be confusing this with Delta, however). There may have also been Los Angeles - San Juan flights for a while. I do remember serving Steak & Lobster--in coach!!!!
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:43 am

My guess is they never flew LAX-SFO, but not certain.

They had a couple of shortlived flights out of SFO. I think they tried PIT, and (sounds unlikely, but...) I think I recall SFO-Louisville. So might be some surprises at LAX too.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:07 am

I just checked my records and I worked a Moonlight Special between Chicago and Los Angeles with a stop at Dallas/Ft. Worth....I forgot about that one.
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:40 am

Yes, they did fly between Lax and SFO in either the late 80's or early 90's .. I remember picking up a friend on that flight. Have no idea how long that route lasted or even began..
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 12:30 pm

In the early 80's I remember flying an EA 767 from LAX to ATL. Wasn't full at all though...The flight next door was going LAX-MIA-BOG. It was very exciting being on a flight with a movie for the first time!

Scariest flight of my life though. The storms and turbulence around ATL was unbelievable.... It caused us to divert to Birmingham, AL.
 
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Routes From Lax

Mon Aug 11, 2003 1:40 pm

jfk/iah/mia/mco/mci/phl..
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:23 pm



I do not think Eastern had 767's. Are you sure it was not a 757 or an A300 airbus? I maybe wrong but I never herd of Eastern having a 767.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:30 pm

747400sp,
You are correct. Eastern never had 767s at anytime.

PHX had a sizeable EA operation in the mid-late 80's...something like 14 flights/day to ATL, MCI, LAS, TUS, SNA, SAN and ONT?
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:50 pm

eastern did serve both sfo and las from lax, the morning flight to las and the evening flight to sfo were both continuations from their miami service. as mentioned above, my timetables also show at diff times, mci, atl, phl continued to lga, jfk, ord, iah, bos, mia and panama city with a 757, dubbed el interamericano service.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:57 pm

eastern did serve both sfo and las from lax, the morning flight to las and the evening flight to sfo were both continuations from their miami service. as mentioned above, my timetables also show at diff times, mci, atl, phl continued to lga, jfk, ord, iah, bos, mia and panama city with a 757, dubbed el interamericano service.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:10 pm

It might have been an A300. It was a widebody and it wasn't a tristar.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:54 pm

I remember EA flying out of both T-3 and T-6 at LAX. At the time they were at T-3, I believe they were on the east side of the satellite.

I'm not sure when they moved to T-6. I flew MSY-ATL-LAX back in November of 1988, and we arrived at gate 65, and then departed out of 65, as well. As I recall, on the LAX-ATL portion, which was a 757, our actual flight time was 3 hours and 15 minutes, when the usual flight time was 4 hours.

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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:15 am

I remember EA flying out of both T-3 and T-6 at LAX. At the time they were at T-3, I believe they were on the east side of the satellite.

In the '70's TW ground handled EA's L-1011's. Their ticket counter was located where Alaska's is today (closest to the escalator). I believe that they moved to T-6 sometime after the Texas Air buyout.
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:44 am

According to this site:

http://www.geocities.com/airohio/EA070278Page8.html

in 1978 Eastern had only four flights a day out of LAX, all to ATL and all on L1011s.

I imagine things changed significantly post-deregulation.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:17 am

Thank you John J this is an interesting time table. I would have flown Eastern if I had to go to Atlanta.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:38 am

Sure nuff Eastern did fly LAX-SFO. They probably started it when they took over Braniff's South American network in 1982 (Braniff flew maybe two DC-8-62s a week into SFO) and it reappeared in later years. Looking thru the old timetables there was other stuff I didn't expect: SJC-MCI, SJC-SFO, SJC-RNO, LAX-SAN. But I never found SFO-PIT or SFO-SDF.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:39 am

I remember taking Eastern LAX-MCI-DCA-BOS in 1986. Flights were on a 757, which at the time was a pretty new plane. We left and arrived LAX at T3, because I distinctly remember watching the planes on RW 24.
 
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RE: Eastern Route From LAX

Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:48 am

PHX had a sizeable EA operation in the mid-late 80's...something like 14 flights/day to ATL, MCI, LAS, TUS, SNA, SAN and ONT?

EA did have a good amount of service to PHX during the 80s. Among the cities served nonstop were:

ATL
MCI
LAS
TUS
SAN
IAH

Most of this service was done via B-727-225 and B-757-225 equipment, although EA occasionally scheduled A-300B4s on their PHX-ATL service when they were still at the old T1. The occasional DC-9-51 or L-1011 would come through on equipment swaps, but rarely.

EA had a rating system for stations based on the volume of passengers they carried locally. "A" stations were primarily hub and focus city locations like ATL, LGA, SJU, etc. "B" stations were smaller, "C" stations smaller yet, and so on. PHX actually attained "B" station status for awhile (1985/6), but dropped dramatically after the sale to Texas Air Corporation.

I don't recall SNA or ONT service from PHX on EA, however. I could be mistaken though.
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