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What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:01 am

Ok I know people has ask about the dash 200, 300 and 400 but what about the original 747. I would like to know what was longest route a 747 100 has flown.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:08 am

Well,747 #1 of Boeing's was flown Seattle to Paris for the airshow back in 1970 (I think it was '70),but this was with a few pax & luggage.
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:17 am

United used to use the -100 regularly on routes from SFO to NRT...

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RE: Longest 747-100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:35 am

Lessee-- when did Pan Am get their first -200s? They were probably flying Tokyo-LAX before that, weren't they? That's 8831 km 4768.6 nm.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:48 am

I think that Corsair was also flying 747-100's between OAK and PPT before they got the -300...

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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:37 pm

Speaking of Classic 747 ranges,I have a question.......Qantas' 747-238B's . Did QF use their -200's non-stop SYD-LAX ?
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:47 pm

No, Qantas' trans-Pacific flights all stopped in HNL except the SP services, which I think were more expensive fares, kinda like a business service (although they had a big economy section of course). I flew Qantas from San Fran and LA to Sydney a couple of times, but we were always booked on the -200 via HNL, with the added inconvenience of having to clear customs etc in HNL ie claim bags and fuck about in blazing heat at 2 in the morning, then get back on the same plane and fly on.
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:23 pm

In the 70' and 80's Sabena operated their 747-100's on the following fligths :
- Brussels - Kinshasa - Johannesburg;
- Brussels - Montreal;
- Brussels - Chicago O'Hare
- Brussels - JFK (and on to Mexico city I believe)
 
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Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:29 pm

I flew an AF 747-128 in the early 90's from DEL to CDG - 8 and a half hours flight time.
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:36 pm

Wardair used to fly the 741 on YVR-MAN/LGW.

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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:52 pm

Didn't TWA use the 747-100 on JFK TLV??
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:54 pm

Actually UA's first service to Japan (with the 747-100) was in 1986 or 1987 from SEA to NRT. That flight had to stop in ANC.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:56 pm

AA777MIA, there actually were problems with the TWA JFK-TLV services and the 747-100

Actually it was supposed to be flown by their 2 747-200s, but when a -100 had to be sent instead, it had to stop at Shannon going westbound. TWA called this a "non-stop" flight and there were actually a couple lawsuits filed for false advertising as i recall. This was all just before the AA takeover/Isreal route cut
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:57 am

Thanks,Cedarjet. I've wondered about that for a while. I know -100's had inferiour range compared to -200's & -200B's .
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:09 am

Still, even the -200B couldn't do LAX-SYD nonstop. It's a seriously long flight, 15 hours in an 747-400. I remember even with the HNL stop, it felt like a stretch for Qantas' 747-200Bs on the HNL-SYD sector, about ten and a half hours if memory serves.

By the way, the longest -200 flight I can think of is Cathay Pacific Hong Kong to LA, 12 hours. I don't know how they did it without leaving most of the pax and freight behind. BA used to fly a one-stop LHR to Sydney with -200s as well, via Bangkok (you wouldn't be able to do it via SIN, the LHR-SIN sector is too long). Both the Cathay and BA aircraft used on these services were the most advanced -200Bs with Rolls Royce engines.
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:45 am

I grow up in Inglewood CA every school I went to was in LAX flight path and never seen a passenger Cathay Pacific 747 200. They had 200 freighter come in to LAX, and I believe they made a stop at Anchorage.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:55 am

NorthStar:

I was wondering, I remember the trip when I was with TWA, but never flew it. In fact those of us on reserve would freak if we got it, LOL... Thank god my number never came up.. Like I said, just vaguely remember it being on the bid sheet (it was 14years ago..)...
 
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Cathay 747-200 To LAX?

Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:21 am

The 7/89 OAG shows no nonstops HKG-LAX; the 7/90 shows a CX 744. Presumably they until they had the 744 to start nonstops?
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:35 am

Tower Air serviced TLV ex JFK. Did they fly non-stop with a -200 or did they do a stop at SNN or CDG with one of their 'legendary' -100s?
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:54 am

747400SP I grew up in Westchester not to far from you and worked for Duty Free delivering packages to flts and in the 80's and 90's Cathay did fly 742's into LAX, the flights were a combination of 742's,743's and later 744's. Eventually going to all 744's by mid to late 90's. The 80's and earlly 90's had some interesting equipment coming into LAX from afar
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:06 am

I do know that PA flew SFO/LAX-LHR nonstop on 707-321B's long before their 747-121's. Also SFO/HND (NRT wasn't built yet - possible flag stop ANC depending on load/weight/weather). Before CX flew to LAX, they flew HKG/YVR/SFO (probably a -200 variant). I also think JL flew LAX/GRU with the -100's. Some awfully long sectors on the south side of the Equator.
 
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:36 am

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I must not have seen them I must have been in class or in the house.

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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:54 am

I think TWA regularly flew -100s on the JFK-ATH route. I'm not sure if they flew them to Cairo, though.
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RE: What Is The Longest Route For A 747 100

Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:54 am

Tower Air used to fly a mixture of 741 and 742 on the TLV flight. The aircraft selection seemed to be pretty random. I always remember the way one could tell if a person they knew had flown a -100 or -200 on the route was if the airplane had made an "unscheduled" fueling stop in Shannon or Gander. Passengers were usually never told of the impending stop until the flight was somewhere over Europe. Since most people here know how junky and shoddy Tower Air's maintenance was, these flights were often delayed. The scenario was often a flight that was delayed about two to four hours, which then made an "unscheduled" stop along the way. This led to angry and haggard looking passengers deplaning at JFK.