cancidas
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BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:50 am

i just heard that BA is doing away with thier wold tails. is this true? why? those are some of the nicest designs out there right now! anyone kknow where i can get a B747 Chelsea Rose for FS2002?
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:27 am

I was also wonderng this, Cancidas...I think they were great and were a delight to see...now, the livery is relatively boring...the previous ones were so very different and colorful and unique in their own ways, and I used to love reading where they came from and thought that the various designs on the luggage tags/tickets/meal menus etc were great.

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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:21 am

They where a good idea but the union flag isn´t that bad.
 
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:24 am

i don't mind the union jack, but i love chelsea rose!
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:40 am

They were awesome looking...


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ATC was having trouble at night identifying planes taxiing around with the logo light only showing these pieces of art, and that's one of the reasons why they're one their way out. It's a shame, though.

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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:48 am

Also the British public got a bit stuffy about the lack of a standardised livery for their 'flag carrier'.

Pity, I really used to like the different designs on the tails...
 
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:57 am

Good riddence. I thought they were hiddeous. I think they never should've gotten rid of the Landor markings. They were truly a classy look. So much better than anything else out there.
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:01 pm

I hate the Union jack livery, it is so boring, every plane looks alike now.

Margaret Thatcher made a big fuss at some event and put a hankerchief over a tail of a BA model plane with a world tail and said that it was hideous. Has Margaret ever looked in the mirror?

Fortunately at MCO we don't see much of the Union Jack scheme here on the 777. I have mainly seen Chelsea Rose and i believe Denmark.
 
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:33 pm

Kudos to Jetjack for speaking the truth. The WorldTails were hideous. Bring back the Jack, and make BA even more British.

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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:45 pm

I flew on the Chelsea Rose 742 from BOM-LHR, I was so pumped!
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:53 pm

It was not the British public being 'stuffy' or Maggie Thatcher not liking them that got them axed in 2000, it was the very negative reaction from customers, who cares what planespotters think?
I think a pilot on a 747 with that Chinese marking as shown above who summed it up best in the tech log;
"Large deposit of a black tar-like substance on the tail'.
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:02 pm

I thought they were dreadful too! What a complete waste of money. The Landor scheme was just so classy.

BA never really recovered over that fiasco though there were other external forces going on as well.
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:21 pm

Could somebody list the various "World Tails"?

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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:21 pm

Also the British public got a bit stuffy about the lack of a standardised livery for their 'flag carrier'.

i thought that virgin is the british flag carrier now.

is there a tail for poland?
what country was chelsea rose?
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:35 pm

 
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:48 pm

The Landor scheme was probably one of my all-time favorites, looked so classy, esp. on the 747's. I don't mind the World Tails, but the newer standard livery isn't very awe-inspiring, if that makes any sense.
 
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:11 pm

**And watch what you say about Lady Thatcher, HlywdCatft. That's no way to talk about my idol**

that is a sick form of sarcasm if i ever did hear it
 
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:24 pm

'Also the British public got a bit stuffy about the lack of a standardised livery for their 'flag carrier'.

i thought that virgin is the british flag carrier now."


There is not really a 'flag carrier', it is just talk appealing to nationalism etc etc. SRB says virgin is britains flag carrier, BA says theyre the flag carrier. Hell for all we know bmiBaby is the flag carrier!!
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 4:59 pm

This may not be a complete list, but I think its most of them

Rendezvous - HKG
2 x Ndebele designs - RSA
Waves and Cranes - JAP
Waves of the City - USA
Poole Blue - ENG
Chelsea Rose - ENG
Grand Union - ENG
Crossing Borders - EGY
Jackals and Trees - BOT
Whale Rider - CAN
Water Dreaming - AUS
Wunala Dreaming - AUS (copied from QF's 744 of the same name)
Nalanji Dreaming - AUS (copied from QF's 743 of the same name)
Red and Gold Ceramic Design - RUS (can't remember the name)
Cock of Katowice (??) - POL
Sterntaler - GER
Colum - IRL
Tartan one - SCO (can't remember the name)
Stripey one - ENG (from the West Country I think)
Delft Blue - NLD
Blomstrang - SWE
Bridges (??) - DEN
Brown and black one - KSA (can't remember the name)
Chatham Historical Dockyard (ENG) - now the only livery.
Checkered one - ROM (can't remember the name)
British Olympic team - GBR

Plus the Air Liberte and Deutsche BA contributions

Louvre Pyramid - IJ
Droites de L'Homme - IJ
Sterntaler - DI
Pop-Art - DI
Bavaria - DI
One with Gothic Writing - DI (can't remember the name)
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:13 pm

Just to correct/update JGPH1A:

2 x Rendezvous (One had a shade of pink) - HKG
2 x Ndebele designs (Martha & Emmly)- RSA
Animals and Trees - BOT
Golden Khokhloma - RUS
Koguty Lowickie - POL
Sterntaler - GER
Colum - IRL
Benyhone Tartan - SCO
Colous Down the Side - ENG
Delftblue Daybreak - NLD
Blomsterang - SWE
Wings - DEN
Paithani - IND

Plus the Air Liberte and Deutsche BA contributions
Caligraphy - DI
 
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:14 pm

>>>every plane looks alike now.

Well, uh, that´s what corporate identity is all about...
Each design on its own was aesthetically quite pleasing (well, most of them anyway) - but that was no way to present yourself to the outside. And especially to your main cash cows, conservative British businessmen.

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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:22 pm

It wasn't British businessmen who were the problem, it was Americans - the reason American's like BA is because its British - Navy blue Nanny cabin crew, tea and scones on afternoon flights, fawning servility to the wealthy and connected (ie. Gold Frequent Flyers). Surveys done amongst American frequent flyers revealed that they didn't want world-friendly bunny-hugging, they wanted Jeeves and stodgy puddings - so that's what they get.

Sad but true - but as pointed out before, that's the business.
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:27 pm

Of course the Union flag is not bad... just a bit usual, ordinary...like many other Airlines...

The "World Tail" concept was pure Genius ! original, creative, Artistic...
so "new", compared to these traditionnal sempiternal boring blue, white, red colors, stripes, stars,circles... whatever...you can see everywhere !



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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:58 pm

Cancidas,

To find a B747 Chelsea Rose for FS2002 go to

www.avsim.com

select 'File Library' then enter Chelsea Rose and select category 'Microsoft FS2002'

You'll get many different planes and models not only for the B747.

Have fun !

Chris
 
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:19 pm

At least with the world tails it made up for that boring "Eurowhite" fuselage.

Fortunately I still see variety in the daily 777 colors that flies over my apartment. I can tell you if it is at least Chelsea Rose or Denmark. But if they went to the boring Union Jack all the way, i couldn't tell you which 777 it was.

I am a fan of airlines having variety- thats why i like airlines like Frontier with their animal tails, West Pac with their logo jets, Braniff with their flying colors.
 
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RE: BA World Tails

Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:37 pm

I thought BA's "World Tails" was a terrific idea. While I thought some of the designs were downright ugly, most were colorful and interesting. The current Union Jack though looks classy.

I for one am sorry to see those colorful tails go.
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RE: BA World Tails

Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:57 pm

Cock of Katowice (??) - POL

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