flyf15
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Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:04 am

Hey guys, curious as to what extreme runways you know of. On mountain sides, curved, etc.



That demonstrates extreme runways, Indonesia style.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:39 am

Whoa! That's incredible! That looks like about a 50 foot drop!

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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:40 am

That looks alot more than 50ft to me  Smokin cool
 
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:45 am

That looks like so much fun!!! I would love to do that...with an instructor who is familiar with the runway....

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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:36 pm

.... I would hope to think they approch the runway from the right direction!!!
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:39 pm

Anybody else have pictures of cool airports like this?
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:08 pm

I like that....I really really do.

That is really flying, not the cheesy stuff guys taking 777 or 340's across the pond do...

You do realize the computer is actually flying those airplanes Big grin
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:22 pm

My thoughts exactly L-188. Ever see the movie Air America?  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:35 pm

That is beyond words. I've seen a few good ones in southeast Asia and New Guinea but I don't remember them being that extreme.

So nice to see a new type of post here.
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:01 pm

Not as extreme, but just as interesting:

The infamous Lukla:


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Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:19 pm

How did you know I had a copy of Air America. Big grin

Actually about 5 years ago there was a great National Geographic about bush families in Alaska and they had footage of a mail plan (Cessna 185) dropping in at one of the homesteads.

He use one bank of the river to touch down, ran through the river to the other side and then rolled out on the other bank.

It was pretty impressive.
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:34 pm

Very cool pic! Reminds me of the time I went to Alaska with my father a few years back- there were bush planes everywhere!

When I took PPL ground school we watched a video on some of the guys that fly for hire in the middle of no where in Alaska. Truly stunning what some of them can do with a Piper Cub on top of a glacier/mountain/etc.. They basically can land anywhere...
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 5:35 pm

Whaohhh, I donno what to say, but all those pictures are
incredible  Big thumbs up
Interesting and nice topic Flyf15!!!
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:53 pm

Would I be correct in assuming that one could only safely land on this runway in an uphill direction?
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:02 pm

N6376M wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that one could only safely land on this runway in an uphill direction?

I would say:

land uphill: yes
land safely: maybe not so much.

Still incredible ...

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Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:04 pm

I remember going to Lukla about 15 years ago and that runway wasn't paved, it was just dirt and rocks. These pictures don't do justice to the fact that there is one way in, and one way out(big mountain at the "top" end of the runway). To add flavor, there was also the wreckage of a small aicraft sitting next to the runway.
 
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:51 pm

Yikes.  Wow!

I think that runway is more suited for something that can take off and land really slow like the de Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver. Even a Cessna 152 is just a tad too fast for that "runway" (if that's the right term to use  Wink/being sarcastic ).
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:01 pm

Lukla reallly is an incredible airport. I think you have to dive before you can start to climb.
 
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:06 pm

I don't have a picture of it, but Barra in Scotland is quite extreme, in a different way: landing on the beach!! Barra actually has schedules flights, and the BA timetable at one time stated "schedules subject to tides".

Maybe someone can post a pix of Barra
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:15 pm

Mozart, flights into Barra are still subject to the Tides  Big grin
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RE: Extreme Runways

Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:05 am

Kulusuk, Greenland - can't be more than 1200m long (I'm guessing, but it was EXTREMELY short), frozen mud and gravel between 10 foot high snowbanks, with a 3000 ft mountain only about half a km due south - no navaids, no nuffin - pilot has to circle overhead to make sure he can see the runway before spiralling in to land - woooohoooo !

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Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:04 am

How can we forget Madiera, with a runway built on stilts?!  Big grin

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RE: Extreme Runways

Sat Aug 16, 2003 3:17 am

Let us not forget TGU. It sounds similar to Lukla except that it lies at the end of a "U" shaped valley. You have to approach the airport from the North, enter a left downwind and land heading North, because a Go-Around would most likely be unsuccessful with the mountain looming straight ahead.

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RE: Extreme Runways

Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:57 am

How about the Hua Hin runway (gulf of Thailand) crossed at one third of length by the main road to the south Thailand ?
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Sat Aug 16, 2003 7:44 am

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Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:48 pm

An uphill landing on the runway above would be the only possibility. The touchdown point would be where the Cessna is in the picture, with full power applied. A Caravan might just be able to taxi up that beast but I doubt that a piston single could.
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RE: Extreme Runways

Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:59 pm

I think that is a 206

Could be any member of that family 205, 206, 207 or 210.

But it is definately not a 208

But 206's are about the only ones that you see with belly pods.

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Sat Aug 16, 2003 3:04 pm

But I never said it was a 208. It is a 206, 207 or 210 indeed. My point was that even a Caravan would be hard pressed to taxi up that hill.

I'll bet on it being a 207.
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RE: Extreme Runways

Sat Aug 16, 2003 3:08 pm

I would put my money on a 206.

They are more common then 207's and I don't recall ever seeing a belly pod on a 207. They are common on 206's.

You are right though, taxiing would be a bit of a pain, I would think that would be something to be avoided.

Just like knocking the tailwheel off the stinger on a 185.
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Sat Aug 16, 2003 3:21 pm

The most famous approach is still the most famous approach (or at least it was):


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RE: Extreme Runways

Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:02 pm

All I can think of from that first picture is, "Wheeeeee.........". Big grin
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:21 pm

Well I am hardly an expert on the larger Cessna pistons 188, I will defer to you on that. I really cannot tell a 206 from a 207 without reference to a book or checking the registration.

On that note, I'm going to bed as it's 0017 hrs and I have to be to work at 0800. I've also reached a goal here, the 28th member to do so. But all my posts have been silly or serious but.........blah, blah.

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RE: Extreme Runways

Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:27 pm

You really can't from a front view.

A side view, the extra length is obvious.

What sells me that is a 206 is the belly pod.

The more I think of it, the more I am convinced that I have never seen a 207 with one.

Which being in Alaska means it probably doesn't exist  Big thumbs up
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Wed Aug 20, 2003 3:48 am

another extreme runway... this one definitely with a slope!

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Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:27 am

Not sloped like some of the others, but *quite* extreme being that the runway is only 1300 feet long and ends in cliffs at both ends:


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Saba (SAB), Netherlands Antilles. Quite an experience to fly in and out of there on Winair's Twin Otter...

I'll also agree that TGU has a pretty hairy approach -- I'll never forget flying into Toncontin.
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Wed Aug 20, 2003 2:37 pm

And another deference to you 188. I live in Arizona where 206s and 207s are rare as hens teeth. I see one maybe twice per year.

That being said, I am still amazed by the picture. I'm thinking that maybe a 20 mile walk down the hill would be a good idea.
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RE: Extreme Runways

Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:30 pm

Someone got a pix from Skiathos in greece? I heard it's quite extreme, too.
 
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RE: Extreme Runways

Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:10 pm

What about St. Barthelemy? Landing down a hill is crazy! The plane on the pic is taxing back. So it landed from the other side!


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