rw774477
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A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:58 am

Which airport will get the most A380 movements in, say, 5-7 years time ?

I think it will be JFK.

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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:02 am

I would be more inclined to think SIN, BKK, HKG, FRA, CDG, LHR, DXB in terms of aircraft movements.

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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:16 am

Probably JFK, LAX, SFO, LHR, SIN & HKG?

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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:19 am

No discussion possible: DXB
Why? Because EK will be the largest A380 operator in the world
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:42 am

No discussion possible: DXB
Why? Because EK will be the largest A380 operator in the world


Even if EK has the largest order for A380s, lets not forget SIN whose national carrier SQ also has some A380s in the pipeline besides being one of the main target markets for this type of aircraft for carriers from Europe (AF/LH), Australia (QF). DXB on the other hand is likely to have fewer A380s from other airlines coming in there compared to SIN.

LHR is another market where we may see significant movements by A380 aircraft in myriad liveries besides being VS' hub (as yet another A380 customer).

Strictly my views!!

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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:53 am

I think Vimanav is right... I don't think DXB will see many others A380 than EK's ones...while LHR, JFK, SIN, SYD or LAX should be definately important A380 destinations.
 
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:58 am

But EVERY A380 of EK should pass through DXB every day or every other day, right? And since they're ordering 45 of them (is that right?), that would be at least 30-35 A380 in DXB every day. Don't see how any other airport would come close.

JFK? Well, what am I missing? One daily from AF, EK if they get going, who else, though? SQ? I'm not seeing how JFK or even LAX will see more than 6 or 7 a day. IMHO.
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:00 am

I suppose QF would use a A380 on the LAX-JFK run. Add one daily from AF, VS, EK, perhaps SQ via FRA, or perhaps LHR if they ever get those rights.
 
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:02 am

In the US, four airpots...SFO, MIA, LAX, and JFK, will see them a-plenty, ORD and MEM will get thier fair share too. However, none will see more than SIN and DXB.
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:06 am

"Even if EK has the largest order for A380s, lets not forget SIN whose national carrier SQ also has some A380s in the pipeline besides being one of the main target markets for this type of aircraft for carriers from Europe (AF/LH), Australia (QF). DXB on the other hand is likely to have fewer A380s from other airlines coming in there compared to SIN."

Agreed. SIN should see the most A380 movements in Asia, followed by NRT & HKG. At the moment I don't foresee any foreign airlines operating the A380 to DXB. Perhaps BA if they ordered the A380?

NRT should be on the list of major A380 airports as NRT is heavily slot restricted.

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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:10 am

Once the Japanese buy in, it will be Tokyo-Haneda, the domestic airport.

Other big movers will be:

Asia/Pacific - NRT, HKG, SIN, BKK, SYD
Europe - LHR, FRA, CDG
Nth. America - LAX, JFK
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:26 am

There was another article in the paper here talking about FedEx's plans to base it's A380s at GSO.

So who knows, maybe we'd even be up there for NA movements.
 
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 3:00 am

JeanLeloup, DXB will certainly one of the first, and maybe the first, in terms of MOVEMENT of A380, as it 's EK homebase, but as I mentionned before, DXB will not see many others A380 from other airlines... The topic is about A380 destinations and JFK, LHR, LAX, SIN, SYD are more likely to be the "preferred" destinations of Airlines with A380, rather than DXB.
 
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:30 am

"Once the Japanese buy in, it will be Tokyo-Haneda, the domestic airport."

Unlikely. Airbus has had relatively little success in Japan. Not to mention, JAL and ANA are rumored to be the launch customers for Boeing's Dreamliner. I think in general the Japanese share Boeing's position that a fuel-efficient plane in the 200-300 seat range makes more sense than a 550+ seat plane.

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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:31 am

I know the market probably won't support it immediately, but does anyone know if DFW's new International Terminal D will be equipped to handle the A380?
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:43 am

AF will be flying CDG-YUL once the A380 comes out. Probably 1 daily.
 
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:01 pm

SFO is definitely a destination for the A380-800.  Smile

I see SQ flying it on the SIN-HKG-SFO route, VS flying it on the LHR-SFO route, LH flying it on the FRA-SFO route and possibly AF flying it on the CDG-SFO route during the summer peak season. Given that SFO's new International Terminal is ready for the A388 (with possible easy upgrades to dual-level jetwalks at the 80 x 80 meter gates on Concourses A and G), SFO could end up attracting quite a lot of A388 traffic.

Surprisingly, LAX may not get A388 traffic initially; the Tom Bradley International Terminal needs to be completely rebuilt to accommodate the A388, and the runways and taxiways will have to be widened and strengthened, too. It's possible that QF's flights to the USA from SYD will have to use SFO initially until the LAX facilities are upgraded.
 
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:26 pm

GSO flyer, do you have any links or ways to find that article, that would be a sight to see A380's in GSO.
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:36 pm

LAX is in an interesting position. The cost of upgrading the airport without an airline based there that will be operating the A380. What will be the driving force to make them upgrade (billion or more dollars?).

Will SFO steal away enough traffic to force an upgrade in the near future?
 
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:45 pm

I have read that the upgrade costs for LAX aren't all that huge - under $50 million. The US airlines who pay most of the bills, however, are not A380 customers and aren't eager to pay the bulk of the costs to benefit a couple flights a day.

LA will undoubtedly get around to completing the upgrade; but the A380 operators may see some special fees to help pay for it.
 
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 6:34 pm

Well apart from the hub cities of all the airlines that have ordered the A380
eg SYD,DXB,SIN,KUL LHR,SEL,CDG

it is common knowledge these these destination will also be serviced by the A380 INTIALLY
LAX , JFK, HKG, TYO, SFO, BKK, FRA,

Later on expect see them at AMS, JNB, ORD among many other cities that are now serviced by the 747.
 
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RE: A380 Destinations ...

Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:04 pm

MasseyBrown,

The problem with LAX trying to accommodate the A380-800 are:

1) The Tom Bradley International is woefully inadequate to handle the plane. It's already inadequate the handle the numerous 747's that fly in and out of that airport! They really need to completely rebuild that terminal from the ground up so only only can it accommodate the A388 with its 80 x 80 meter parking ramp space and possible dual-level jetwalk access, but get enough parking gates to accommodate the 747's that fly in and out of that airport. That is unless LAX reconfigures its remote parking gates so they use mobile lounges like what you see at IAD.

2) They would have to widen the runways/taxiways and strengthen the Sepulveda Boulevard underpass to accommodate the size and the weight of the A388.

Total upgrade cost: US$1.1 billion. No wonder why LAX authorities are worried that some A388 traffic could end up at SFO instead (SFO is just about ready to accommodate the A388, with only taxiway improvements necessary).