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Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:09 am

Ok, we have the thread on airports with most 747 service.

How about the largest U.S. airport with the LEAST AMOUNT of 747 service.

I would start with IAH.
In terms of traffic, they are ranked what?, 9th, 10th, 11th? Something like that? I have seen the daily KLM flight to/from AMS a few times, but that's about it. Obviously JFK, LAX, and ORD see a lot, what about ATL and DFW?


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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:09 am

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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:25 am

I was thinking ATL as well.
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:27 am

I agree...
Only South African flies to ATL with a 747...I´m not sure if they still operate to ATL.
Swissair used to fly there using a 747-300 until it was replaced by a MD-11.


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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:28 am

Most certainly Atlanta, but followed closely by DEN. In terms of ratio of 747s to total operations, the number is very low.


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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:36 am

There are currently no scheduled passenger 747s into DFW. The only 747s that fly in are the freighters of China, Korean, Eva, and Atlas.
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:49 am

DFW FOR SURE......like jr said, there are NO scheduled passanger flights into DFW. Use to have AA with the SP back in the 80s, Braniff, Korean Air flew the 744 until they got the 777 they flight that in now. BA uses the 777 now instead of the 744, back when they had the DC-10 i saw that sitting at the gate a few times. LH now flyes the A340 but once flew the 744 for a short time.

DEN gets the United 744 sometimes

ATL gets Air France, South African

DFW......NOW ONE, DFW's not great for spotting unless u love MD-80's. When i lived there i use to to watch all the time, but would only go to see the BA 777 and the LH A340 now that i live by ORD i see things like this every 15 minutes. No need to spot at DFW anymore..
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:53 am

IAH had more in the 90s than they do now I believe, but as noted above KLM is for sure, and what about one of BA's flights.

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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:57 am

I think you have to count cargo planes. Watching a 747 scream by just overhead is thrilling no matter who or what is on it.

It sounds like ATL wins here hands-down. Second-busiest airport in the world and very few 747s, if any, coming in.
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 4:19 am

Guys.

As far as B747-400s ATL has daily South African and maybe only seasonal thing but Korean brings B747-400.

As far as B747 cargo...ATL has Eva, Korean Cargo, Polar, Lufthanza Cargo, China Air Cargo, JAL Cargo.

Im guessing DFW is the winner.

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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 4:27 am

SAN!!! Lol, what about SEA, or MIA?
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 4:27 am

Greetings,

MCO has almost 15 million visitors during the summer months, yet only Virgin Atlantic, British Airways and, I think, Saudi fly 747-400's into MCO.
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 4:29 am

The 747 has always been the stranger at ATL along with the DC-10. If you went to ATL in 1978 you would only see L-1011s from Delta and Eastern. Delta ended 747 ops on April 23, 1977 and sold the fleet. Sabena did start 747 service to ATL in April 1978 to be the first airline from Europe. ATL was great if you were a salesman for Lockheed. The Northwest DC-10s certainly stood out back in '78 when they were on the ramp. Oddly, Delta had DC-10s from 1972 to 1975 until the L-100s arrived.
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:11 am

Definitely Love Field.
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:49 am

BOS only gets a VS 744 and 2 BA 744s each day. Sometimes you might see LH sub a 744 in for a 343 or 332 on FRA-BOS, but on average there are only 3 747s coming through BOS daily.

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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:50 am

I'd laugh at Love Field if i didn't see the DL 747 picture @ DAL.

I believe ATL gets a British Airways 747, but it might be a 777. AF does not have a 747 at ATL to my knoledge. Does FLL still get the South African 747? If not, then FLL for sure gets my vote.
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:53 am

Not many 747's at SEA:

Only 747 flights to Seattle:

1. British Airways (Flts: 48-49)
2. Northwest (Flts: 7-8)
3. Eva Air
4. The occasional UAL
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:55 am

Obviously I am joking about DAL.
I do know for sure that BA uses 777s into ATL, not 747s. Before that, BA used DC-10s on that route, so no 747s.

I am not sure about FLL. I do know that FLL is 'stealing' some of the international carriers away from MIA with lower taxes, arguably better facilities. I wouldn't be surprised if FLL has one or two 747s on weekly or twice-weekly routes from African countries.

What about LAS? I only know of Virgin's 747 service that is once or twice a week.
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:55 am

The reason a lot of these are short of B747's is because of BA. They operated the B747-200/400 into SAN, PHX, ATL, DFW, IAH, MCO, TPA etc and have now changed to the B777 or moved to Heathrow.
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 6:18 am

Flairport, you are right. Air France does not send 747s to ATL. Although they have in the past, they currently have two daily flights with 777s. British Airways flies to ATL from LGW with one flight a day on a 777. South African Airways sends a 744 six days per week. Korean Air used to fly a 744 when the routing was ICN-DFW-ATL-DFW-ICN, then switched it to a 777 when separate nonstop flights were given to each destination, but back in May I think they switched the ATL service back to a 744. I do not think it was ever a 744 after the switch to nonstop from ICN but before the recent switch to a 744.

All that summed up leaves ATL with 747s from two airlines, nine times per week. Here it is:

-SAA 744 six times per week from JNB/CPT/SID
-KE 744 three times per week from ICN


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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 7:57 am

WOW, I just figured it out... IT'S LGA!!!!!!! not enough room for a 747!

(if they have had a 747 in the past, i'll be mad and confused)
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sat Aug 23, 2003 8:09 am

Denver International hands down. It goes through many periods/months with no scheduled 747 flights of any type.
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 5:01 am

Gigneil has the right terminology....

"ratio of 747s to total operations"

Pass vs. Freight, doesn't matter.

Sounds like a tie between DFW and ATL, unless someone has numbers to back one of the other. No way on DEN, LGA, SEA, BOS - read to topic again - "Largest U.S. Airport..." - since ATL and DFW (along with ORD) can all be considered #1 in some form of ranking - then everyone else is out if one of those three are in the race.

BTW - the only BA aircraft I see at IAH regularly are the 777's. That's not to say they DO NOT fly a 747 here, but I have not seen it if they do.
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 6:02 am

**MCO has almost 15 million visitors during the summer months, yet only Virgin Atlantic, British Airways and, I think, Saudi fly 747-400's into MCO**

No Saudi 747s here.

BA stopped flying the 744 last year and uses the 772, but once in a great while there is a 744 sub.

Virgin flies 2 744s daily from LGW and a 742 (op by Air Atlanta Icelandic) from MAN. Although twice a week we actually see 3 744s out of LGW.


When I was in Atlanta last year I know South African flew a 744 there, I saw it take off.

I would have to say DEN is the largest US airport with fewest 747s. First of all DEN is the largest airport in the US and 747s are quite rare there.
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 8:08 am

Keep in mind Denver does get a daily Lufthansa 747-400, at least for the time being. United has on again off again 747 service through here (currently off, I believe), but there's always the possibility of finding a 744 flying IAD/LAX/ORD/SFO-DEN. British Airways has also flown in 744s in the recent past, I imagine we will likely see that again as well.

Both DFW and ATL get a decent amount of cargo 747s, and ATL does get the SAA bird.

IAH is certainly at a low point for 747 services, but hardly goes without. We get a daily KLM 747-400. On the cargo side, we get Air France Cargo and Cargolux 747-400Fs. If you count VIP 747s, we got a lot of those.

In the past we've had National, Pan Am, Alia Jordanian, Air France, NW Cargo, Martinair Cargo (now an MD-11), Lufthansa, etc.

British Airways doesn't currently fly 744s here, but count on a 747 when/if LHR-IAH ever becomes a reality. That I am sure about. Lufthansa had a 744 scheduled for FRA-IAH for November '03-March '04 for a short while, but this has since been nixed for regular A343s. Wouldn't be surprised if it cropped up again though.

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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 8:26 am

I guess I should clarify once more. Largest U.S. airport was meant to mean Most Flights -or- Most Passengers - not largest land area. Isn't DEN closed anyway?
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 11:12 am

LAS gets VS & JAL 747's , though not daily. MIA gets them from LH,BA,Aerolinas Argentina & Iberia. Plus freighters of Atlas .
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 11:23 am

STL gets nothing in the way of 747's these days.
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 11:33 am

Isn't DEN closed anyway?

That's quite like saying HKG is closed.

Denver - Stapleton International is closed, and Hong Kong - Kai Tak International is as well.

But the 3 letter codes transferred to their successors - Denver International Airport and Hong Kong - Chep Lap Kok International Airport.

Denver has to be up there on the list... as I believe its 6th in passengers transported, yes?

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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 11:38 am

No 747's to MSY, not even cargo.

We get the occassional 747 charter (Air Atlanta Iceland, Virgin 744 this January from London), but that's pretty much it.

I believe the only schedule 747 service we ever saw was from Delta, when they operated the 741 for that short period in the 1970's.
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 12:07 pm

Well PHX has no 747 service today and is, I believe, the sixth busiest airport in the US.
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 1:07 pm

How about PHL???
It only has a daily BA 744 and maybe a few UPS 747's here and there.
 
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RE: Largest U.S. Airport With Fewest 747's

Sun Aug 24, 2003 1:15 pm

KPIT doesnt have any 74's (in the early 90's we had BA 741's). Also i dont believe CVG has 74 service. DCA, LGA, SLC, CLE, i think FLL, PDX, STL, OKC (one of the largest in size lol), MCI, MDW, BUF, OMA, SAN, are all decent size airport that I dont believe have 74 service (scheduled pax.).
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