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When Did PAN Am Close Down?

Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:53 pm

I was with my parents to take my dad to the airport for his flight to LHR from LAX on Air New Zealand I saw a Pan Am plane coming to the gate. This was at terminal 2. This flight was on a 767-200 or an A300. That flight was going to JFK from LAX and the year was 1996 I think.
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RE: When Did PAN Am Close Down?

Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:03 pm

Remember, there was Pan Am, and then there were 2 Pan Ain't You probably saw Pan Am II, in fact I'm sure of it! The original Pan Am flew from 1927-1991.
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RE: When Did PAN Am Close Down?

Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:18 pm

The Original Pan Am ceased operations on December 4, 1991, I believe. The flight was 436 from BGI to MIA. It was a 727 that did a flyover before coming back around in the pattern to land on RWY 30. My father has a fantastic, and somber, video shot on 12/4. It basically starts at the time of the announcement and follows all of the aircraft from Concourse E and F to the hangar as they are towed upon completion of their last flights. 747's, 300's, 310's, Dash' name it. The video was shot by Don Boyd and given to my father as gift. He was the Operations Manager for PA at MIA at the time.
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RE: When Did PAN Am Close Down?

Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:27 pm

there have been three pan ams. the original ceased operations in 1991. then a ft. lauderdale (i think) company bought the pan am name and started some scheduled and passenger services, using 737s. that operation ceased in the late 90s. it then restarted (hence pan am III) as a portsmouth, new hampshire based scheduled and charter carrier that today flys 727s up and down the east coast. check out
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RE: When Did PAN Am Close Down?

Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:15 pm

Does anybody know?... Is it that easy (of course, after paying), to buy a name just like that and start a new company with the same livery and stuff??
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RE: When Did PAN Am Close Down?

Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:22 pm

If I remember correctly the PanAm II flew LAX-JFK LAX-FLL with A300's. They did a merger with Carnival Airlines and ceased operations shortly after that.
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RE: When Did PAN Am Close Down?

Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:27 pm

The original and greatest Pan Am ceased flying on Dec 4 1991 as was mentioned above.
Pan Am II was started by investor Charles Cobb and former Pan Am President Marty Shugrue in 1996 (inaugural flight Sep 26, 1996) with a fleet of 3 ex-EA/CO A300s based in MIA. They used mostly old EA property and tax credits for the new company (Shugrue had also been the trustee for EA). That company eventually grew to about 6 A300s servicing JFK, MIA, LAX, SJU before merging with Carnival Air Lines in order to get access to other markets and narrow-bodied a/c (Pan Am II was only certified by the FAA to operate 1 type as the government wanted to prevent new airlines from growing too fast and out-of-control after the Valujet accident). Not long after the merger, the company filed for bankruptcy and eventually stopped flying in 1998. At that time, they had pretty much grounded all A300s, returned Carnival's 737s to lessors, and were left with 2 727-200s (owned outright by KW).
Pan Am III was started by Guilford Transportation when the owners bought the name and the 2 727s in bankruptcy court and started today's Portsmouth-based airline.

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