Happy-flier
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JT3D-powered DC-8 Takeoffs

Sat Dec 25, 1999 4:55 pm

Hi all!

I have been a long-time admirer of the DC-8 aircraft but have never had the opportunity to fly as a passenger in one - nor have I ever flown in any of the classic jets of that era (e.g. B-707, B-720, IL-62, VC-10). With the exception of the IL-62, these aircraft seem to be extinct now at Pearson Airport.

I'm hoping that someone who has been on many DC-8 flights can shed a bit of light on what it actually is like to fly in one of these classic jets in terms of internal sound and the perception of acceleration. Old engine stretch 8's seemed to always really labor down the runway on takeoff and they also seemed to use lots of flap compared to practically any other large jets.

For comparative purposes, I've flown in the DC-10-30, 737-200, 767-300ER, and DC-9-30. (Somehow I get the feeling that DC-8's were nothing like any of these!)

Thanks in advance
Paul
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RE: JT3D-powered DC-8 Takeoffs

Sat Dec 25, 1999 5:13 pm

Hi Happy-flier,

I can't speak for DC-8's, but I can for 707's. I have flown SAA 707's and Lufthansa 707's. They were noisy and cramped, although one just accepted this back in the early seventies. We did not know any better. International flights tookforever, because you had to stop for fuel every few hours and by the time you reached your destination you were both deaf and worn out and this gave rise to the term jet lag. If you were unfortunate enough to sit right at the back of the plane, as happened once, it was like riding in a washing machine. The loo's were also right there in the tail and unfortunately the windows don't open at 35 000 feet.

While going in a 707, DC8, VC10, Convair 990, or any other classic jet now will have a huge novelty appeal, rest assured that you have been spared the agony of international jet travel in these relics from the past.

Don't get me wrong, I love the old jets, but if I had to sit in one for 11 hours, I think I would rather be in a 747-400 or MD-11.

Merry Christmas
Nick
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RE: JT3D-powered DC-8 Takeoffs

Sun Dec 26, 1999 10:16 am

I've flown on the DC840,DC850,DC861-62-63,and all versions of the 707/720 including the 707-120s. I'd much rather fly on one of these than anything nowadays. In terms of outside noise they were all excruciatingly loud,especially the Dc840s ,Interior noise they were as quiet as anything modern flying today. They were the queens and flagships of yesterdays fleets and they will be missed.
 
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RE: JT3D-powered DC-8 Takeoffs

Sun Dec 26, 1999 4:08 pm

The CFM engined DC-8's provided more power for short take offs and more payload. The JT3D's were less powerful and often required all the runway to get airborne. They were very noisy inside. I have heard stories from passengers that in the stretch 8's you could see the floor curve as you looked up the isle because of the flex of the airframe. Pretty wild  
 
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RE: JT3D-powered DC-8 Takeoffs

Mon Dec 27, 1999 10:40 am

I have flown in Icelandair DC8-63s ´quite a few times during the end of the 80s, it was very comfortable, and the sound of those JT3Ds were just amazing!!!
Although I flew with those planes at the end of their FI-career they were very clean and I never experienced and technical problem with them although they were old even those days. Inside it was a very comfortable plane, I have to tell you it's not that big difference in cabin comfort between a DC8 and a 757 which FI use today....in my opinion at least!
 
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RE: JT3D-powered DC-8 Takeoffs

Mon Dec 27, 1999 12:27 pm

A while back the TV show First Flights, hosted by Niel Armstrong, touched on the later DC-8s. I think the episode was called "Passengers Enter The Jet Age". A United Parcel Service 70 series DC-8 captain talks about the difference between them and the 60 series. He seems very fond of the 70 series and recall him saying "I don't see as many end-of-runway lights as I used to".