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Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:32 pm

Hey guys and gals,

I was wondering if any of you remember Viasa which was Venezuelas flag carrier until 1996.
I think the two things I remember most were the Viasa and Pan Am planes standing beside each other. And the great in flight service they had.


It was an airline that made all of Venezuela proud, and we truly miss her.. Hope to read some good anecdotes....ohh and PAN AM rocks!!!!

cheers
 
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:41 pm

Yes I remember them, I flew on them once as a kid when we moved to Maricaibo in the early 80s. I remember they were nice to me as a kid.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 2:08 pm


Hi!

Yes I remember very well VIASA! This airline was very popular and regular in LIS for many years. I have a few episodes with VIASA. First one was my father that told me. In 1961 KLM had used their DC-8's to make VIASA flights from AMS to CCS via LIS ( tech stop ), normally the plane had KLM livery with VIASA titles, the cockpit crew was dutch and cabin F/A's venezuelan. This DC-8 arrived late in the evenning, refuelled and left again. My father worked in a catering company and had contact with all crew that night, after the plane took-off a few minutes latter he saw a big bright light in the skies and soon found out that the DC-8 exploded just a few miles outside Lisbon in a place called Fonte da Telha, all passengers and crew died. My father latter was interviewed by the police. Rumours say that the cause of the explosion was a wrong type of fuel in the DC-8, and this could actually be the cause, specially taking in account that in those days the jets and piston planes were running together and specially the late piston airplanes had high-octane fuel so that could have been the reason.
When I was a child, maybe 4 or 5 I was going often with my dad to LIS airport and one day I remember seeing landing a KLM DC-8, the plane landed long so for a few minutes I lost sight of the DC-8, when I saw it comming again it was now a VIASA DC-8, I was a small child and I asked my dad were the KLM DC-8 was? I was sure I saw it and now I was just seeing a VIASA one that I don't remember seeing landing. Of course my father laughted and showed me that this particular DC-8 had 2 liveries, one side was KLM another side VIASA. Latter this confusion ended when VIASA started their own flights, first of all flying the good old DC-8-63, I still remember vividly these Super Sixties, and latter and finnally the DC-10-30. A curious moment was after the AA DC-10 crash in Chicago all DC-10's were gounded for a few weeks and suddenly LIS was a place to see some airliners that replaced the DC-10 normally in Latin American routes - Lufthansa flew the 707, SWISSAIR the DC-8-62, Varig the 707-400 and VIASA returned with the DC-8-63.
Then VIASA stopped flying and that was another of those classic airlines that we miss. They used to fly to Santiago de Compostela from LIS, I don't know why but that was one of those interesting flights they had.
I hope you like my recalling moments.
Regards
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 2:12 pm

Oh and I meant Maracaibo, not mari, Its late....

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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 2:26 pm

I've seen their A300s before, they used to fly IAH-Aruba-Caracas with the A300.
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 2:28 pm

I remember the split livery DC-8 very well from its days at JFK. Viasa on one side, KLM on the other.

Viasa is missed.

Tom
 
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 2:51 pm

I remember Viasa vividly, as a young kid my parents would take me on the weekends to SJU and I would just love watching those Viasa A300's- those colorful orange tails always amazed me . I never had the privilage of flying with them but it was a real shame what happened to such a proud carriers as Viasa. Aeropostal has done a decent job but it definitely is not the same- RIP Viasa (what was once a proud and powerful airline in South America).
Chepos
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:42 pm

Chepos I remember when they flew the DC10 into SJU. Unfortunately I do not think that VIASA was ever profitable. I still have some inflight service brochures which depict the interior of the DC10 and their meal service. It was all very nice.
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:17 pm

Is Aeropostal doing fine now? Also St. Barbara is trying to get an international network.
Can someone here confirm though if Avensa and Servivensa are grounded? I heared rumors last winter but maybe it was a temporary thing due to the fuel strikes.
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:28 pm

I have a wooden VIASA pen, which also carries the Iberia logo. What was the association between them?

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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:35 pm

Iberia had taken a stake in VIASA, just in the way they had taken a stake in Aerolineas Argentinas.

Wow, Iberia really had a lucky hand when picking their participations... only Swissair did worse
 
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:38 pm

But Iberia wasn't the best doing that.
Look what happened with Viasa and Aerolineas Argentinas.
Iberia also had a stake in Ladeco, the chilean airline that competed with LanChile with a fleet of 737s,727s and 757s...fell into red numbers, and LanChile swallowed it.

All that, thanks to Iberia!
 
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:54 pm

Yes Viasa was great. Actually the first plane ride of my life was on a Viasa DC-8 when I was 2 yrs old: BGI-POS-CCS-POS-BGI.

The last time I ever flew with them was on one of their MD-80s, again going BGI-POS-CCS-POS-BGI in August on 1983. I remember the food was really good and the flight attendants very friendly. Was very sad was Viasa went out of business.

It's such a shame that Aeropostal is basically the only true international airline now in Venezuela. I miss seeing Aeropostal's planes at MCO. I assume with the situation in Venezuela it will be a very long time before we ever see direct service between Central Florida and Caracas again. Aeropostal was serving Orlando Sanford for a while, does anyone know if that is still the case??
 
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:15 am

I flew Viasa a couple of times in the 60s, short flights from Aruba to Caracas and Caracas to Curacao. Both were on DC-8-50s, one of them planes had the KLM titles on one side, Viasa on the other. Despite the short flights, I remember their service was very good.

Unfortunately, that's the extent of my flying on Viasa.

Cheers, Ralph
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:33 am

Viasa - Venezolana Internacional de Aviacion S.A.

VIASA, was Venezuela's national airline and like most large Venezuelan institutions was created from the capital produced from the oil industry that made the country one of the richest in the Americas throughout most of the 20th century.

Their international network was truly impressive. They had the most international destinations of any airline in Latin America. An impressive accomplishment considering the fact that they only had 5 DC-10s to operate them.

To Europe, they flew to the following cities:

Madrid
Tenerife
Santiago de Compostela
Lisbon
Porto
Paris
London (Heathrow)
Rome
Milan
Zurich
Frankfurt
Amsterdam

Prinair

I think you are correct, in the fact that they really never made a profit. As they were a direct institution of the Venezuelan government, one of their reasons for being was to promote Venezuela and they did a pretty good job of doing it. When things started getting bad in the country, in the 80s, the government couldn't really continue to support it and it was left to fend for its own, but it was a over bloated as any other government institution.

MEA-707

Hey you.  Smile

Avensa still flies using Servivensa's air certificate. They have a very limited domestic presence, but at least they didn't completely disappear. Check out their website.

http://www.avensa.com.ve

They have small commuter fleet of aircraft. I believe Aeropostal isn't doing too well. Santa Barbara is Venezuela's flag carrier to Europe, plus they fly to several other Caribbean and South American destinations using their ATR's and one B727.

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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:38 am

I remember when Viasa was using their then brand new MD-80s on the BGI-POS-CCS service in the early 80s. It was my first MD-80 and was amazed at how much more quite they were compared to the BWIA DC-9-50s.

Hey BGIplanefreak - looks like we may both be from Barbados. I bet we could share a lot of stories...

 
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:16 am

I must be getting old since I can not tell what year I flew Viasa and from where to where. I have never been a frequent flyer so I should be able to keep a better track of my trips :-(

In any case what I do remember is that it was a DC-10 and that it was the first time I saw this "tv-show" with a flight map, altitude, speed, etc. It was great news for me at a time some European carriers (I saw it in SAS and KLM) were circulating a paper-chart in the cabin with the flight data and a map showing our route. You tool a look at it and the you passed it on to your neighbor.

Of course, that detail of Viasa made a great impression on me. And the colorful exterior of the plan. The rest is gone.

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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:31 pm

Thanks a bunch a guys!!!!!!
 
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:04 pm

While I still lived in Venezuela I was a frequent visitor to Maiquetía and I remember the days when Viasa's orange tails dominated the scenes at CCS. Unfortunately, I never got to fly with them.

I had hoped that Aeropostal would be able to establish a decent network of routes to Europe and the Americas, but that doesn't seem to be happening.
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:10 pm

I remember Viasa! I flew LHR-SCL (return) via CCS *AND* EZE (I think) Sept 1995. As part of the English organisation Raleigh International. I think Viasa was some sort of sponsor for the expedition because everybody got a grey sweatshirt with the Viasa logo on. Unfortunately I lost mine a long time ago.... A shame because I thought it looked pretty good (for a grey and orange sweatshirt that is!)
 
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RE: Do You Remember Viasa?

Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:40 pm

Hi Guys,

As you may guess by my username Viasa is very close to my heart, I flew them many times as a kid and still am amazed at the huge route network they operated.....frankly, I´d like to pass on the Iberia buyout, Viasa was doing badly already but IB management just ran Viasa into the ground..at the end IB kept Viasa´s best planes and sent the others to scrapyards (Marana and Opa Locka). Thanks for this thread!

Luis
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