pilottim747
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Mesaba To Devils Lake & Jamestown, Great Lakes Out

Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:03 am

Mesaba Airlines won the government contract to provide Essential Air Service (EAS) to Devil's Lake and Jamestown, North Dakota. As of September 2, they replaced Great Lakes Airlines (operating Beech 1900Ds). The contract with the U.S. Department of Transportation is worth over $1.7 million a year.

The Jamestown (JMS) to Minneapolis (MSP) flights will go via Aberdeen, SD twice daily on weekdays and once daily on weekends. The Devil's Lake (DVL) to Minneapolis (MSP) flights will operate through Grand Forks, ND with the same frequency. All these flights will be operated by a Saab 340.

Although this is good news for Mesaba Airlines but I'm wondering what will happen to Great Lakes Airlines at MSP. Now their only route from MSP is to Brookings and Huron, SD (two round-trips weekdays, one round-trip weekends). Is it still feasable to keep operating this route (even with a USDOT subsidy)? And does this mean Great Lakes will leave MSP?



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siuust
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RE: Mesaba To Devils Lake & Jamestown, Great Lakes Out

Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:11 am

Great Lakes still flies out of MSP to Brookings and Huron. Still twice daily I think, I fueled (the only airline we have to do overwing!) flt 648 last night at work. So they at least have one flight out of MSP. Not sure how many PAX were on board, I was not around when they arrived or departed, but they usually carry some the fewest I've seen are two but I've never seen a full flight.
 
siuust
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RE: Mesaba To Devils Lake & Jamestown, Great Lakes Out

Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:44 am

Great eye...I got my A&P license from SIU last summer, I choose not to stick around for a degree though. I am studying Mechanical Engineering at St. Thomas now, Just started my Sophmore year yesterday. Nice to meet you.
 
Markus
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RE: Mesaba To Devils Lake & Jamestown, Great Lakes Out

Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:57 am

GLA still flies to Brookings and Huron...but don't expect it to stay that way. It's tough running a base with that few amount of flights. It is my understanding that both Mesa and Mesaba have been trying to get these routes.

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Markus
 
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RE: Mesaba To Devils Lake & Jamestown, Great Lakes Out

Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:58 am

Cool... my undergrad is from SIU (Edwardsville campus) and grad degree is from UST. Are you in the dorms at UST? For several years my sister-in-law was hall director for the guys dorm next to Grace Hall (can't remember the name) on the South Campus. Also, many a night I ate dinner at Scooter's before class (was in the night MBA program).
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siuust
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RE: Mesaba To Devils Lake & Jamestown, Great Lakes Out

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:03 am

I'm from the Twin Cities so I moved back in with my parents. Don't have to pay rent, I'm working part time for ASIG refueling A/C, mostly NWA but I do a few others too, in order to pay for school. I've been trying to find a part time job working on A/C, but no one is willing to work around my school schedule. I too have eaten my fair share of lunches at Scooters before going to work.
 
asmtrd
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RE: Mesaba To Devils Lake & Jamestown, Great Lakes Out

Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:20 am

This will open up new routes in and out of the new Aberdeen Airport that was completed just this month.
 
pilottim747
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RE: Mesaba To Devils Lake & Jamestown, Great Lakes Out

Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:55 am

It looks like the US DOT removed the subsidy for Brookings, SD. Here's a quote from the US DOT website (http://dms.dot.gov/general/orders/summaries/0326wkl.pdf):
GREAT LAKES AVIATION, LTD. - 90 DAY NOTICE TO TERMINATE SERVICE AT HURON, SD
Order 2003-06-28, the Department tentatively terminates the subsidy eligibility of Brookings, South Dakota, under the Essential Air Service Program because the subsidy per passenger exceeds the $200 per passenger statutory ceiling and the community is less than 210 highway miles from the large hub airport at Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota and also sets a final subsidy annual rate of $1,911,452 for Great Lakes Aviation, Ltd., for service at Brookings and Huron, South Dakota, from January 1, 2003, until the termination of service at Brookings becomes effective.


To show how unimportant the loads are on these flights the Jamestown Sun (click to see full article) says that the last Great Lakes flight out of Jamestown had one passenger aboard (out of a capacity for 19). The first Mesaba flight carried three passengers into Jamestown and took two passengers out. It's all about the subsidy.

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