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9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:33 am

I was just wondering if anyone saw any strange airlines or aircraft that were diverted to your home airport on 9-11-01.

At SFO on that day there were 3 744's from NWA, a Thai 744 and a I believe a Malaysian 744 if my memory serves me. All were diverted to SFO en route to their various destinations.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:49 am

At YHM - Hamilton, Ontario, Canada:

1 Northwest DC-10
2 American B767s
1 United A320

The United 320 was in the next gate over at Logan to one of the doomed flights. Very sad day that is burned into my memory.

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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:53 am

My home airport, Halifax, had the bulk of 9-11 diversions.

Just to name a few:

4 777s Continental, United, American and BA
4 767s Delta, American & US Airways
4 744s BA, Singapore, Lufthansa and Virgin (I think)
1 330 Swissair

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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:17 am

You guys in Canada had a bunch. The Thai 744 enroute to LAX was diverted to SFO with two FA-18's escorting it. Sad day but an incredible sight!!! Any Canadian air force jets do any escorting???
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:48 am

Picture of Halifax...

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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:10 am

You guys in Canada had a bunch. The Thai 744 enroute to LAX was diverted to SFO with two FA-18's escorting it. Sad day but an incredible sight!!! Any Canadian air force jets do any escorting???

The Canadian government and military barely knew what was going on..... much less have the capability to escort anything into or out of our airspace. Most of our CF-18s are based in Cold Lake, AB and Bagotville, QB.... so they're in a relatively poor position to be scrambled out to incoming jets on the east or west seaboards.

I recall that a KAL Cargo 747 had to be escorted into Whitehorse, Yukon by American fighters because we simply didn't have the resources to respond.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:17 am

GRR- Grand Rapids, MI- our 9/11 notables.

NWA 744: PEK (Beijing)-DTW
CO 757: EWR-SFO
SWA 737-??? (couldn't tell type)
Air Canada CRJ

and others too....
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:26 am

YVR had 34 diverted jets.

Northwest: 744's, 742's, DC10
United: 744's, 777's
American: 777's
China Airlines: 744's
Air China: 744
China Eastern (I think thats the name): MD11
ANA: 744's, 777's
Asiana: 744's, 777's
JAL: 744's, 742
Lufthansa: 742
Korean Air: 744's, 742
Singapore: 744
Phillipene Air: A343
Cathay: 744's

These were ontop of the numerous Air Canada, Canada 3000, Westjet, Air Transat diverts. Air Canada's two hangers had roughly 20-25 planes parked in front of them to make room at the gates for the other diverted aircraft.

Northwest alone had 10 747's and 1 DC10 divert here, very very impressive (since we don't get 747 service). We also had around 15 777's divert here from various airlines, that was cool since we didn't have any scheduled 777 service at that time. I wish I could upload my pictures that I took, but they weren't taken on a good camera.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:42 am

YYT had 25 diversions.

Sabena: A330 x3
KLM: B763 x1
U.S. Airways: B762 x1
Air Canada: B763 x1
Continental: B762 x1, B757 x2
Delta: B763 x8, B777 x3
American: B777 x2
United: B777 x2
Air Transat: L1011-500 x1
Plus a sked AC A319 that got stuck on the ground after airspace was closed.

We had them parked together good and tight because we were told to expect up to 65 planes in total.

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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:16 am

No known deversions at GPT (Gulfport/Biloxi),but we did have an Airtran 717 and Southeast DC9 grounded at the pax terminal.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:25 am

I was on Kauai, Hawaii during 9/11 and was away from home. I've always wondered how LAX, ONT, SNA, BUR & LGB looked during the grounding.

Watching national and local news during this national tragedy only showed brief moments of LAX and focused on the 3 flights bound for LAX and the one bound for SFO.

Does anyone have pics or their versions of how Southern California Airports faired?

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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:51 am

Three or four jets diverted to Keflavik, Iceland on Sept. 11th, 2001. There were two 747-400 from Lufthansa (D-ABVW & D-ABVH) and one or two 767-300 from SAS (LN-RCE). It was raining that day so I didn't get very good pictures.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:06 am

Hi guys - in the pic of Halifax - are those aircraft parked on a taxiway or runway? Were passengers confined to the aircraft or allowed to disembark? Where on earth did the airlnes put all the passengers in hotels? Parked so close together it must have taken ages to clear them all out again.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:08 am

As I recall, we had roughly 22 airliners on the ground at MSY, the only oddities being a National 757, and an America West 757. Everything else was everyday stuff, I recall WN having Nevada One here during the grounding.

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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:16 am

Hi guys - in the pic of Halifax - are those aircraft parked on a taxiway or runway? Were passengers confined to the aircraft or allowed to disembark? Where on earth did the airlnes put all the passengers in hotels?

I believe they're parked on one of the runways.

They were allowed to disembark... there are other pictures of YHZ that evening showing several dozen school buses assembled to pick up the pax.

And a lot of the folks weren't put up in hotels by the airlines they were travelling..... the locals in many Canadian cities accepted people into their homes for a place to stay, and communities set up emergency shelters in schools & community centres, hotels offered free rooms, and the community came out with donations of food, clothing, toiletries and money.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:25 am

You guys really showed the world how you can pull together in such a dreadful situation.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:44 am

I was working a BA 767 (the only BA 767 that went to YHZ - all the other transatlantic BA 767s went to Moncton I believe) that diverted into YHZ on 9/11 & we were the 4th or 5th aircraft to have diverted in (out of 39 non Canadian aircraft). Our passengers were held on board for only 4-5 hours, wheras some of the later arrivals passengers waited for 10-11 hours. The Canadian authorities were absolutely amazing in their organisation & treatment of both the passengers & crews alike. Our passengers ended up in a Canadian Red Cross centre that had been set up in a conference centre that was due to host an event with Canadian PM Jean Chretien.....by all accounts they were treated very well & a buffet was set up with the food that was to be served for the Prime Minesterial event.......also the local Kennel Club put on a dog show for the stranded travellers. As for the crews, all spent the first night on board their respective aircraft & many a second night. On the morning of 9/12 2 Air Canada crew who had worked LHR-St Johns-YHZ on 9/11 arrived at our aircraft with a flat bed truck & pulled up to door 1 left. They then stood on a plastic crate & passed up breakfast to us, with 2 of us lying on our stomachs reaching out of the aircraft door.......the 2 stewardesses from AC had been on duty since leaving LHR & were part of the YHZ emergency committee.....great gals! 5 hotel rooms were found for our crew of 11 mid evening of 9/12 & we then spent 2 nights in YHZ downtown (very enjoyable considering the circumstances) & enjoyed the hospitality of the Nova Scotians. The area has suffered more than it's fair share of disasters, SR111 & a massive explosion in Halifax harbour which wiped out a large percentage of its population many years ago, yet the people were upbeat & very welcoming. We finally got a call to leave for the airport on the morning of 9/14 & waited our turn to taxy to the terminal & reboard our remaing passengers who had not continued their journey by surface transport & arrived back to LGW mid evening on 9/14.
Standing on the runway at ground level surrounded by nearly 40 large jets was something I will never forget, nor am likely to repeat.

Other YHZ diversions, parked close to us, were:
SQ 744
CO 757
AIH 767
AMM 767
AF 340
SR 330
SK 767 (on which an escape slide was deployed whilst parked up)
5 or 6 assorted BA 777s & 744s
& many more.....
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:46 am

Anyone know of any at Milwaukee (MKE), my home airport?
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:07 am

If you look up on this website for pictures at Gander, Newfoundland (Canada) and St. John, Newfoundland you will also see a lot of diversions on 9/11.

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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:10 am

PHL:
AF 777
CO 738 x2
CO 73G
CO 762
AE 135 x3
CO 145 x2
UA 733 x2

that's all i can think of, some of the planes might be wrong(like a 733 could have been a 735)
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:45 am

YXY....
1 Condor B767-300ER
1 Korean Air Cargo B747-200F
1 Korean Airlines B747-400
3 Air North HS748s
1 Air NorthBeech 99
1 Air Canada B737-200Adv

A real rush hour for our airport Big grin
(yes it did brake records for our airport plus a few runway lights)

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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:07 am

I didn't know that PHL got a CO 767, kinda interesting... Personally I rather drive up to Newark to see a CO 767 then to have one diverted here by a tragedy.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:10 am

Well, North Bay didnt get many, if any at all (i wasnt here at the time but ive been variously told 1x Dash 8 and 1x A319 or nothing).

This is rather odd considering YYB is the listed diversion point for Toronto Pearson (YYZ) and we certainly have the room (10000x250' runway, lots of ramp). So whats the reason?

Ok ill tell ya... directly adjacent to YYB is this: "Canadian Armed Forces Base North Bay, 22 Wing, NORAD Command/ Canadian Sector Air Operations Center"
As soon as an Air Defense Emergency was declared, YYB was locked down, nothing in or out. All access to YYB was blocked (with APCs!) and any vehicle entering the zone was searched.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:15 am

Not sure about all the diversions at CLT, but I do know that we had a good number of United jets, I remember seeing on the news a couple of 757's, 767's. I believe they said that most of the United jets were on their way from Floriday to IAD, and vice versa. Anyone else know of any diversions at CLT?
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:15 am

Not sure about all the diversions at CLT, but I do know that we had a good number of United jets, I remember seeing on the news a couple of 757's, 767's. I believe they said that most of the United jets were on their way from Florida to IAD, and vice versa. Anyone else know of any diversions at CLT?
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:17 am

Sorry for the double post, realised I had a typo in my first post, and then corrected it.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:31 am

USAir330: seriously, i'd rather just see one in EWR than for one to be diverted here because of a tragedy. BTW i believe it was in route from IAH-EWR.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:40 am

There were approximately 25 diverted aircraft parked on the east pad at Port Columbus, plus all the aircraft parked at the terminal that were supposed to be there at that terrible time. Oddities that arrived in CMH were a TWA 767-300, Midwest Express DC-9, and a USAirways A321. There were several United 727s, America West Airbuses, Northwest Airbuses and DC-9s, and other aircraft. The eeriest part of the whole thing was the complete lack of any noise at the airport, something I hope never to hear again.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:57 am


I'm sure someone here can give a more accurate account for DTW. I went to work 9/13 (I had the two days prior off). I recall... I think two ANA 744's, a couple of US Airways Airbuses, Frontier 737 or Airbus, I can't remember.
AA/UA had a few extra aircraft in also.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:15 pm

YEah there were two ANA 744s at DTW that day, anyone know where they came from or were heading? I can only think of one airport east of DTW that would get an ANA 744 and that would be JFK, or does YYZ see them too?

I believe that there was a Frontier Airbus 319 too.

Are USAirways Airbuses oddities at DTW anymore? I haven't been in Detroit for 4 months so I don't know.


Does anyone know of diversions to Central Florida airports like MCO, SFB and TPA?
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:02 pm

In Rockford, Illinois(RFD) we had 3 diversions.
UAL 767-300 JFK-SFO
Spirit MD-80
National 757-200 LAS-ORD

* The UAl 767-300 was directly in front and on the same airway of flight 93. From what I hear the Flight crew from the 767 that diverted were close friends with the crew of Flight 93.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:52 pm

What aircraft were diverted to Cleveland (CLE) and Akron/Canton (CAK)?
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:11 pm

Does anyone have info of DEN diversions? That would be appreciated.

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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:16 pm

Does anybody remember the LH 340 that returned without landing to Germany? How long has it been in the air? What distance did it fly?
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:17 pm

Obviously this is an emotional topic. I didn't think I would have this kind of response. I can't believe it has been two years. I remember driving past SFO around 5 pm. that day and there were NO lights, no planes . no cars, no people...it was sooooo wierd. The only other time I have seen that was the earthquake of 1987.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:44 pm

Does anybody remember what town in Southwest Kansas that had a bunch of diversions? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the passengers on the planes increased the towns population by 10+%


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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:55 pm

LAX was the same as SFO...so quiet you hear a mouse pissing on cotton! The freeways belonged to whoever wanted them. But seeeing the airport so buttoned up..extremely eerie! As I recall..there were no major diversions just as at 8:46AM EST [1st WTC impact] (5:46am Pacific) The airport's just coming to life...only inbounds are LAN Chile (767 at the time), QF 744s from down under and 1 or 2 KE 744s enroute. The MH and TG 744s at YVR were certainly headed here. So to answer Ron Western DC-10's question...no noteworthy diverts.


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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:01 pm

I don't recall what civilian aircraft were at OMA that day as I was working (and wishing I was anywhere but at work frankly). But, we did get one famous "diversion" in at Offutt AFB for a couple hours, a VC-25 (aka heavily modified military VIP 742) known that day as Air Force One. That was the one time that day where I really felt safe where I was, since if the president decided to come here, then it can't be as bad as I was thinking it was.

One of the local PBS channels ran a nice one hour show about Canada's outpouring of support to diverted passengers on 9-11 last year. Considering the second anniversary is almost upon us, check local listings to see if it might be showing again anytime soon in your area.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 2:34 am

Prior to 9-11,

-the last time a 744 landed here in Halifax (YHZ) was in 1992 when KLM ended their 3-year service YHZ-AMS.

-The largest Boeing in YHZ was AC's 763s except for a few 747-200 and DC-10 emergency landings. (We almost had a Swissair MD-11 if not for that tragic disaster).

-We also never had any Airbuses larger than a 310.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:18 am

Montreal (both YUL and YMX) got 20 diversions approx. But I did not keep track exactly what they were. I remember I had an appointment with my dentist that night and to go there I have to drive by YMX. On my way back home, I decided to go and take a peak. I know some nice places to spot, but there were police cars everywhere! Considering the ambiance of the moment, I decided that I should stay away from the airport. So just by driving by, I saw precisely:
UA 744
DL MD11
SR 332

But I know there were more.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:37 am

Regarding some earlier questions above;

One of the NH 744s at DTW was a NRT-IAD flight. Cleveland took a Delta 763 that FAA and ATC officials thought may have been a 5th hijacked aircraft (USA Today article). I know that UA's first IAD-LAX flight of the day, a 757, came down in Garden City Kansas, and BHM got a UA 777, which I think was a MIA-LAX flight.

And referring to USA Today again, MEM & IND got the most diverted airliners that day, with 45 apiece.

 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:30 am

HlywdCatft,

About a month ago, I was at the airport going to MIA and as I was walking from AA Cargo to Smith Terminal, I thought US had an A321 parked at the gate, but it turned out to be a B757 as I got closer. I've seen an Airbus here and there, but not something regularly.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:45 am

"What aircraft were diverted to Cleveland (CLE) and Akron/Canton (CAK)?"

I would like to know also.




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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:08 am

MCI saw a JetBlue A320 and an AA 767-300 "Luxury Liner", among others.

All Vanguard aircraft were sitting at home or within a few minutes of the 'port when airspace shut down, except one that continued to ATL.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 7:45 am

FL 717s of course, NW 744, NW DC10, NW A320, CO 767-400, DL 767-200, DL 777-200 (or 764). These were just some that I saw.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:08 am

CAK got our DC-10 EWR-HNL as well as EWR-DEN.
MKE was a 73G EWR-YVR & EWR-SEA 738, both these aircraft were halfway b/t MKE and GRR but kept going on to MKE instead of turning back.

I do remember that (CCS-IAH)? ended up diverting to CZM. Altough it could have been from LIM, or GRU.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:20 am

ROC got a AA 738 BDL-ORD, HP express BOS-CMH CRJ.

Those were the only two I saw, I know there was a lot from USAir.
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sat Sep 06, 2003 1:22 pm

I knew EUG or PDX had a UA 733 that had left YVR bound for SFO, and landed there once the skies were closed and everyone ordered down. Given it happened around 5:46am PT, must have been the early flight out of YVR and had only just taken off shortly before.
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:08 am

No diversion of aircraft here to NYC. We were one of the first ones to shut down.  Sad
 
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RE: 9-11 Diversions At Your Home Airport

Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:29 am

CLE got a Delta 767-400. Dunno what else we had. I just remebered that aircraft on the news because he was flying BOS-to somewhere on the Westcoast, and the pilot was afraid terriosts could be aboard.
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