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Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:10 am

There are a number of airports which have traffic by large wide-body freighters, but their pax traffic has nothing of that size. FOr instance, Luxembourg has the entire Cargolux 744F fleet, between pax planes that are never bigger than a 737 or 320, and typically as small as an ER4 or F50. Fairbanks is another example I think, with many freighters stopping over on their way from Europe to Asia.

Which other small airports have big freighters going there?

PS: and PLEASE, no arguments and exegesis on what a "small airport" is. In the context of this thread, it could be an airport that otherwise has primarily narrowbody or commuter traffic, or one where cargo constitutes the biggest chunk of traffic, or places where the airport is small as such, etc... Any place that is not like JFK, ORD, LHR, FRA, HKG and so on.
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:14 am

HSV gets quite a bit of 747 cargo service for its size...
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:17 am

I've seen Fedex 767's on approach to Burbank - BUR.
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:17 am

JBirdAV8r,

Forgive my ignorance: which airport is "HSV"?
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:21 am

PIK Glasgow Prestwick has lots of 747F's and the only pax they have are Ryanair, Globespan (leaving soon) charters aer arran bmibaby and germinia express.
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:33 am

Liege, Belgium, Hahn, Germany and Gothenburg, Sweden come to mind.
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:34 am

LAN gets 757's and 727's from UPS. I believe that LAN is a small feeder hub for the Michigan area for UPS.
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:39 am

Those are FEDEX Airbus A310s at BUR not 767s. But UPS flys 757s into BUR. Dayton (DAY) gets a lot of 747s, DC-10s, and Airbus cargo planes because of Emery Worldwide. But the passenger side only sees RJs,737,A320s, and a few DL 757s to ATL.
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:10 am

quote: "LAN gets 757's and 727's from UPS. I believe that LAN is a small feeder hub for the Michigan area for UPS"

LAN is the UPS hub for everything in Michigan except the Detroit area. LAN gets 3 UPS flights per day- RFD (Rockford, IL) 757 or 727; PHL- 727, and SDF (Louisville) 757. Smaller contract feeder aircraft (and trucks) also operate into LAN to fill the UPS a/c.
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Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:11 am

ROA gets no full size jets but the ones that come from UPS and FedEx.

Sad, since it was once a cornerstone of the Piedmont network.

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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:29 am

Forgive my ignorance: which airport is "HSV"?

HSV is Carl Jones Field in Huntsville, AL. It sees some Cargolux and Atlas movements on a fairly regular basis...maybe related to Marshall Space Flight Center in the area? I don't know, though...I would have thought flights to MSFC would be more apt to go into Redstone Arsenal airport.
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Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:39 am



MHT (prior to the extension of 17/35) used to get UPS 767s and FEDEX DC10s..
currently get UPS A300's and FEDEX A310's which may change now with
17/35 extended to 9250 feet.



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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:46 am

BFI (Boeing Field) has no scheduled fixed wing passenger servicen (I think), but receives UPS, FedEx and Airborne widebodies, and the occasional AN-124.
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:49 am

Blytheville, Arkansas (population around 18,000) gets cargo 747s on a fairly regular basis. There is a U.S. Postal Service sorting hub there at the former Eaker Air Force Base. The airport boasts an 11,600' x 300' runway.

Is this the smallest city in the world to get 747 service? Note that Blytheville really is in the middle of nowhere and is not simply a suburb of a larger city.
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:56 am

RFD (Rockford, IL) small airport, only commercial traffic is a Eagle Rj like 2 times a day i think.

It sees UPS 727's, 757's and DC-8's. Big airplanes considering the size of the airport and since its only 60 miles away from ORD.
 
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Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:30 am

FedEx DC-10s/MD-11s routinely serve SJC and I've seen A300s and A310s at SNA.
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:32 am

BIL has UPS 757s, 727s, DC-8s, MD11s, and 747s coming in and the biggest pax plane there is a 757 from DEN.
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:32 am

Great Falls, MT - FedEx A300s and A310s

Arkansas Intl (Blytheville) is loaded with heavies during the holiday rush

Rockford, IL is a UPS hub, receives everything but 747s (except during the holiday season), not technically a small airport or city, but still impressive due to almost non-existant commercial service.

Decatur, IL - UPS 727s & 757s

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Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:58 am

While BDL isn't that small (they do have a handful of Delta 767s daily), they do get AN-124 and 747 freighters in there on a regular basis.

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Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:15 am

ROC gets FedEx A300s and A310s, by far the largest aircraft scheduled here.
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Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:26 am

OMA gets the occasional FEDEX A310
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:08 am

SDF gets no widebody civil flights and nothing in the civil flights larger than an MD-88 or 737-700. But being a hub for UPS we get M11, 742/1, 306, 763, 752 and all of the other UPS aircraft.

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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:31 am

The largest passenger jet out of SWF(Stewart Airport, Newburgh NY) is a DC-9 and/or MD-80 of SouthEast. Most are either regional jets, Dash-8's or smaller.

On the cargo side, UPS put's a 757 or 767 down several times per week. We also see a few Atlas Air 747's, although I have no idea why. They deliver whatever it is they are carrying to a private location on the southeast end of the field. We also have the NY ANG 101 Airlift Group, which has about a dozen C5 Galaxy's assigned.

And then there is the old FedEx DC-10 N68055 that landed here back in September of 1996. It suffered an in-flight fire between MEM and BOS, and did an emergency landing here. The plane burned on the runway. The fuselage from the wings forward has been up on blocks here since then. No wings, just fuselage. I don't know why they haven't scrapped it. It's story can be found here. http://aviation-safety.net/database/1996/960905-1.htm
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:49 am

Yeah, SDF has some serious cargo traffic for a really inconsequential passenger airport. What is great is there is a Six Flags amusement park right off the end of the runway, so you are on this roller coaster going really fast and then you catch this glimpse of a UPS 747 like right there. It's kind of neat. It feels like you could reach up and touch the aircraft.

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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:08 pm

TOL (Toledo OH) would definitely make this list. They are the North American sorting hub for BAX Global. Daily there are roughly 18 to 25 aircraft movements during the evening push with a few during the afternoon west coast push. Most aircraft are DC-8-71s with a few 60s every now and then, and 727-200s operated by Capital. It is also a nice treat, for those fans of the old jetliners, to watch the last passenger DC-8s fly through (or sit on the ramp) every day. As far as widebody service, Toledo see a regular Polar 747-400F on Saturday afternoons that is jointly marketed by BAX Global & Qantas that operates to SYD (tech stop in HNL). Also with the new fall schedule, additional widebody service will be coming on board with more 744s and A300s.

Lastly, TOL was one of a few cities awarded rights to have flights to Baghdad. ATI will begin the route this fall with a DC-8-63. May not seem a big deal to many...but still something neat considering TOL is one of the first cities to be part of the rebuilding of Iraq's air service.
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:14 pm

Flying in and out of Ypsilanti over the past several years, I've seen the usual Kalitta 747s, but also Gemini MD-11s and DC-10s, World MD-11s and DC-10s, National 757s, Express.net A300s and a whole slew of others.
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:16 pm

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Regional hub for UPS. We get cross-country 767's / 757's plus the ocassional A300
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:20 pm

National 757s at YIP??

YIP was great when it was the old Kalitta American International Hub. We used to see 727s, DC-8s, 747s, L1011s all come into YIP regularly. Plus USA Jet with its DC-9s, a couple other cargo companies with DC-8s and 727s. I have seen ATI and BAX both fly DC-8s there before their merger. I have even seen an Il-76 there
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:16 pm

well...LGB has UPS B767 and B757's landing there...FedEx A310's and the occasional B727's...and Airborne express B767-200's.

We also have the airForce planes that are really huge...not sure what kind of airplane it is.

Then there's our A320's...Horizon's CRJ's...America West's RJ's...and American's B757, B737, and MD80
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:30 pm

Ostend in Belgium receives a lot of rare (at least in Europe) and big birds.
 
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:39 pm

Fairbanks has allready been mentioned.
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RE: Which Small Airports Have Big Cargo Planes Coming?

Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:37 pm

Subic Bay & Clark Airports in the Philippines are small airports, and I think only the latter has pax service (soon-to-be Asiana to Seoul), and they are the UPS and FedEx hubs in the area respectively, getting a few Airbus/MD11 movements per day.

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