LambertMan
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MCI-SJC Discontinued

Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:20 am

GEEEZ. No more nonstops to SJC as of Nov. 1st from the state of Missouri. Man, I really saw MCI growing up in WN's system to be a major player, maybe not now, first RDU then SJC. Oh well, hopefully in the future WN will continue to build up MCI.
 
expressjetphx
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:39 am

It can only be expected. Like the airlines that came before it at MCI- USAir, Vanguard, and others, they have all either pulled out or went out of business, like Vanguard. i'm sorry to see it happen again.
 
MCIB757
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:49 am

WN is not cutting back in MCI in no way in the big picture. After the WN section of the terminal is renovated, they would have picked up 2-3 more gates at MCI. The renovation for the WN section I believe is expected to start in the winter/spring of 2003/2004. So while they may be cutting some flights that must of been not very popular, I think they will continue to grow overall.

Tom
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goingboeing
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:36 pm

Sorry, but SWA isn't pulling out of MCI anytime soon. I believe that the MCI-SJC leg was the continuation of the RDU-MCI leg. PErhaps they decided that the loads on those nonstops were not profitable enough to maintain. Speaking as one who who has MCI as their home airport, the B terminal is usually hopping...with a LOT of people heading to the Southwest gates.
 
ckfred
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:52 pm

It's also possible that SWA is redeploying some aircraft into STL. SWA has made it clear that it intends to increase service at Lambert, in the wake of AA's decision to scale back the STL hub.
 
LambertMan
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:05 pm

It very well could be redeployment, who knows though. From what Griggs has said 15 to 20 flights will be added. To where and when is still unknown. I would guess RDU, PDX, BNA, and HOPEFULLY PVD. That would make life alot easier for me! Big thumbs up
 
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:20 pm

SJC traffic is way down the last 2 years. The Tech bust is hurting that region. They supply numbers by terminal (A & C) not by airline. Terminal A consists of American and Southwest, with everyone else in C.
http://www.sjc.org/newsroom/activity.html

Year to date figures as of June show Terminal C O&D traffic is down by over 10% from YTD 2002. 2002 was down over 16% from 2001. So it doesn't surprise me that WN is cutting some flights that serve SJC.

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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:04 pm

Lambertman,

PVD has been after STL N/S service for years now...there's a chance, but don't hold your breathe...
 
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:28 am

GoingBoeing:

Who do you work for at MCI?


As for WN pulling out of RDU-MCI-SJC, this is a general trend around their entire system. They probably are redeploying somewhere.

Flights affected that I know about:

SAT-RDU
AUS-RDU
RDU-MCI
MCI-SJC

It looks more like RDU is the principle loser in this, not MCI.
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goingboeing
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:39 am

Elwood - I don't work at the airport or for an airline. I live and work in Johnson County on the Kansas side. But I agree...RDU is the bigger loser - MCI is still growing for SWA.
 
elwood64151
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:49 am

JoCo Industrial?

As you know, I worked for NJ and FL out of MCI.

FATFlyer: I didn't read your post. It looks like SJC may be the real loser! Was this the terminus for those RDU-AUS/SAT flights?
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:51 am

Additionally, San Antonio-San Diego was chopped in the spring although Southwest officials expressed optimism (per a San Antonio newspaper article) that the route might be reinstated in the future.

Personally, I'd rather see San Antonio be connected to Oakland via a nonstop.
 
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modernArt
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:56 am

Raleigh flights were:

RDU-AUS-SAN-AUS-RDU
RDU-SAT-SAN-SAT-RDU
 
MCIB757
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:31 am

Hey GoingBoeing, me and you live pretty dam close, I live in Johnson Coutny, KS too.

Tom
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RE: MCI-SJC Discontinued

Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:39 am

Well that really suprises me. First, because I used to frequent that non-stop and it was always 90-100% full. Secondly, I worked up at MCI this summer as an intern and did a lot of research with the DOT data. The data showed that 80 PDEW travelled between MCI-RDU. Throw in the SJC people continuing through and you have a pretty decent load factor. Hopefully somebody will pick it up but I doubt it.