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AZ747
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:15 am




http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/09/09/attacks.lawsuits.ap/index.html
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:31 am

How disgusting. Such a terrible attack on our country shouldn't feed the rest of the world's stereotype that all we do is sue and try to blame other people for something no one could have forseen besides intelligence. AA, UA, Boeing, and the Port Authority suffered on that painful day. AA, UA and the Port Authority lost many employees on that tragic day as well as the plaintiffs, let's not forget. It is the job of the FAA to ensure the skies are safe, not AA, UA, Boeing and especially not the Port Authority.

If there's someone to sue here, it's the government agencies. They're ultimately responsible for protecting us from these things.

By the way, this is already being discussed.

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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:37 am

AMEN!!! Tekelberry... So lets see UA is already in bankruptcy, AA and Boeing can now join once they are stuck with paying millions in damages to the families, it just makes me sick.
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:13 am

LAWYERS!!! LAWYERS!!! LAWYERS!!!
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:32 am

I'm quite sure you'd feel very different if a family member was lost.
With little or no security...no reinforced cockpit doors, this was an accident waiting to happen (if you can't get in the cockpit--you can't control the plane!).
Airlines responsible? Yes, there is contributory negligence. The cases will prove that.

 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:43 am

LAWYERS!!! LAWYERS!!! LAWYERS!!!

You summoned our resident one into this thread.
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:49 am

Actually Greg I lost my grandmother to Lung Cancer because she smoked not too long ago...Did I sue Philip Morris because of this ...NO

People get on a Plane everyday knowing that there could be that miniscule chance that the plane could be hijacked,crash or have some sort of incident..Very remote BUT there is that possibility.

What you do is except responsibility for your actions

You know coffee is hot....you don't sue if it spills
You know smoking gives you cancer..So you don't smoke or except the consequences.

Like many people have said out there...ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY and GREED!!!!
If you can get a buck.....SUE.
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:54 am

no reinforced cockpit doors, this was an accident waiting to happen (if you can't get in the cockpit--you can't control the plane!).

If you can't get onto the plane with weapons, you can't get into the cockpit and you can't control the plane.

And how on earth is this Boeing's fault? That's a bit like saying Shell are responsible because they provided the jet fuel that burned.
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:05 am

no reinforced cockpit doors, this was an accident waiting to happen (if you can't get in the cockpit--you can't control the plane!).


Actually, reinforced cockpit doors were outlawed. It was a federal regulation that all doors must be weak so that in case of emergency they could be easily opened (IE, a shoulder or kick) for evacuation. Flight Attendants were also required by federal regulations to carry a key to the cockpit, so there's your access point regardless.

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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:06 am

This is such BS. Man I hate lawyers. How much can I get... How much can I get....
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:13 am

Greg:
While I did not lose family members, I did lost plenty of personal friends. 1 on Flight 11, and 6 on Flight 77...
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:24 am

It's stupid, how Boieng, AA, and UAL could prevent a thing that have never happened before, and has posteds before why Govenrment agencies where not blamed since now it's known that they knew that an attack like that could happen and did nothing? Now want to blame AA, UAL and Boeing cuase that???? It's stupid and has you posted before LAWYERS i really don't hate them but there are a few that only looks for damaged people to get money for themselves, What a shame.

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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:45 am

Exactly, the government knew and had the info all along, do you think they passed information on to the airlines and airport security services? If there is fault anywhere, it is with the government!
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:52 am

Airlines responsible? Yes, there is contributory negligence. The cases will prove that.

How does suing them help anything?
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:52 am

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

The FAA is the total and only responsible entity for the attacks on 9/11. Their regulations are the ones that LEGALIZED box cutters and switchblade knives to be taken aboard US airlines.

Let me say that one more time. It was an FAA rule that box cutters and knives with 3 inch blades were permissable to be carried on board passenger aircraft.

And the morons in the FAA didn't think that box cutters and knives couldn't harm or kill people?????

Typical FAA. The blood law is the only thing they know how to live by. They never make a change to something that they know is dangerous until somebody dies. It's an absolute asinine policy. It makes me sick.
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:59 am

Before you go blaming the lawyers everyone, try and remember not *all* attorneys are on the plaintiffs' side of things, mmmkay.

Secondly, what about the families? Many have already received compensation and now they expect more? Now they're going to hurt other American jobs and families should they prevail. Think about that.

Hey Boing, you're quite the tactmaster there. Hate to rain on your parade, but most people referred to as 'towelheads' are, in fact, Sikhs. Wrong part of the world buddy.
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:01 am

Hey Aaron747...

Hate to rain on your lack of sense of humor, go find one for crying out loud.
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:04 am

How does suing them help anything?

I helps the attorney's wallet! With the absolute GLUT of attorneys, attorneys figure, "let's throw something up against the wall and see if it sticks". To take advantage of a worldwide tragedy for financial gain is absolutely reprehensible! So what happens...we get rich attorneys, we screw up the USA's transportation system and the USA's economy along with it. For what? Our beloved deceased are still just that. I pray for those lost on 9/11 and I pray for the souls of those soulless heartless sick minded attorneys. St. Peter ain't letting them through the pearly gates!!
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:05 am

>You know coffee is hot....you don't sue if it spills

Wrong, there was such a lawsuit in this country. Back in the 1980s, I guess. A lady was driving with a cup of coffee held between her thighs. The coffee spilled. She did sue. I am not 100% sure whom, but, as far as I remember, it was the coffee place: for selling too hot coffee. And, again, if I am not mistaken, it was in Ohio, "The heart of everything".

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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:07 am

It was McDonalds and she won I think $3 million.
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:10 am

Dulles,

I was referring to the Macdonalds lawsuit when I made the statement...You spill it...then you spill it...oh well.....Its just common sense  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:15 am

Isnt it funny how after the Macdonalds "Hot Coffee" lawsuit you suddenly began seeing "Caution-Hot " plastered on the outside of all the styrofoam cups at starbucks,Macdonalds and the like..Hell there even on our styros on the plane  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:21 am

Yes... Flight attendant.... I'll have a cup of ice cold coffee please. One that's been out for a while, I don't like it fresh....

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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:30 am

Dulles: You mean the "Heart of it all?"
Besides it's "Birthplace of Aviation" now anyway.  Big thumbs up

PS- The coffee lady won.
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:38 am

You can surely get in the cockpit protected by reinforced cockpit doors:
"If you won't let me in, I'm going to kill the people here one by one ..."
Let's see how many pilots are going to open the door then.

But I think it's not the lawyers' fault. They are merely doing what their clients want them to do. So don't kill the messenger.
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:59 am

Wasn't there a recent story on how 20-30% of the people claimed the money from the special fund set up by the Government in the amount of about $2 million per person? Not to put a price on someones life, but.. Gimmie a break.

I can just see it. They hope for more, and they get less and the lawyers walk away with 20% when the people could have had the whole enchalada.
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL "Responsible" For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:00 am

Getting off on the inevitable tangent:

Lawyers are annoying, but obviously they're not the source of the problem. They don't award awards.
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:12 am

>>WHAT A CROCK OF $HIT!<< It's all because of the lawyers,going after companies with money. Hell,let's sue the fuel companies that sold A^A and UA their fuel - fuel that burned all those people and melted the steel in the WTC.?? I think that's the only company involved that isn't named. Blame the FAA,those terrorists carried on legal objects that day! Oh,I forgot,the FAA is the government,and you can't sue them!
ARRGGHH!! Damn lawyers....................
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:16 am

Wow, I can't believe some of the comments here. Obviously, AA, UA, Boeing, and the Port Authority are not to blame...that's absolutely ludicrous. But how is our government any more responsible for what happened? Were those FAA or other US government employees hijacking planes and flying them into buildings? And sue the government...yeah, that's a bright one. Where's the government get it's money? Taxes. And who pays taxes? Us. So in essence you're sueing yourself and every other taxpayer in this country. I can't think of a more intelligent idea  Yeah sure. Sheesh...if you're going to blame somebody, try looking a few thousand miles east.... Insane
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:18 am

McDonalds was asking for a lawsuit. Coffee is supposed to be served at a much lower temperature than what they heated theirs up to. They only heated it up so much to avoid people wanting refills.
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:32 am

McDonalds was asking for a lawsuit. Coffee is supposed to be served at a much lower temperature than what they heated theirs up to. They only heated it up so much to avoid people wanting refills.

Give me a break, i would love for you to show me where there is a law or some sort of official that says exactly what a cup coffee has to be served at. Maybe then i will believe that McDonalds was asking for a lawsuit
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:36 am

McDonalds was asking for a lawsuit. Coffee is supposed to be served at a much lower temperature than what they heated theirs up to. They only heated it up so much to avoid people wanting refills.

Where did you get that from? McDonalds can serve their coffee however they like!
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777236ER
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:39 am

Where did you get that from? McDonalds can serve their coffee however they like!

The coffee was far hotter than was necessary and the lid used didn't fit the cup.
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:39 am

Gimmie a break. It's freakin' coffee... It's supposed to be hot. This sisn't France... Or wherever the cold coffee idea came from. This is America. Serve it hot and as thick as you can get it.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread....
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:41 am

Gimmie a break. It's freakin' coffee... It's supposed to be hot.

But not so hot that if you spill it it scars you. 'Gimme a break', when you drink it it's not meant to burnt your mouth, is it?
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:44 am

I think he was kidding guys..If he wasn't...then that's really sad!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:46 am

O.K. He wasn't Kidding..................Yep your sad!
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:46 am

No... I was serious!!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:47 am

Thats when you use your common sense and let it cool down!!! DUH!!!!!
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:48 am

1. Cup is very very warm.
2. Steam is rising from the top of the lid.
3. It's coffee....

4.... Where is your common sense? Okay, found it... Good.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:49 am

Thats when you use your common sense and let it cool down!!! DUH!!!!!

What? Why should McDonald's be allowed to sell something that'll burn you? Put on of those little plastic lids on that lets you drink while driving and there's very little scope to "test" the coffee. McDonald's shouldn't sell coffee that burns your mouth!
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:53 am

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!.......Its Hot..when you go to sip the coffee you know its going to be hot and if it feels hot let it cool down....NOW if you spill it on yourself then you're stupid and its your fault.!!!!!

back to the thread .
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:56 am

Its Hot..when you go to sip the coffee you know its going to be hot and if it feels hot let it cool down....NOW if you spill it on yourself then you're stupid and its your fault.!!!!!

Sip the coffee? It's very hard to do through those tiny holes. Why should the coffee be served too-hot-to-drink anyway?

If you spill it on yourself you're stupid? What happens if they put a lid that doesn't fit on the cup? Still stupid?
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:57 am

You obviously have no common sense...none whatsoever
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:58 am

Hey, if you can sense the heat coming from a lid as it approaches your mouth, then you probably shouldn't be ordering coffee in the first place. Order tea and then sue because you froze yourself.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:01 am

You obviously have no common sense...none whatsoever

Now now, personal insults.

You honestly can't see how you could burn yourself on coffee? If the coffee is too hot (read: undrinkable) and the packing wasn't suitable, you should sue and win.

Hey, if you can sense the heat coming from a lid as it approaches your mouth, then you probably shouldn't be ordering coffee in the first place.

Again, WHY SHOULD COFFEE BE THAT HOT? And next time you go to Maccy D's, get a cup with a takeaway lid. See if you can feel the heat.
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:02 am

Okay 777... I gotta ask... Was it you that sued???  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:03 am

Nope. If I got $3 million worth of injuries from a cup of coffee in faulty packaging and that was too hot to drink, I probably would though.
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RE: Boeing,AA,UAL Responsible For 9/11

Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:04 am

I'm gunna buy a hammer, hit myself with it, and sue Craftsman because they made it too blunt than they should make hammers. Also I'll say the handle didn't fit my hand properly and because i was trying to nail 2 boards together in the car on my way to work it was very difficult to maintain control.
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