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Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:07 pm

Hi,
Do you know which airline uses the oldest aircrafts?
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:13 pm

I don't know the average fleet ages of particular airlines but airlines which use old aircrafts (and new acfts as well!) are:

SAA South African Airways - speaking for 74L, 742 and 743
JAS Japan Air System - AB3 and some AB6
JAL Japan Air Lines - some 742, 742 SR and SUD, 743 and D10
Northwest - using DC9 and some D10

Most South American Airlines (maybe except "Lan Chile") should be added to the list as well.
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:20 pm

Your question is rather vague. Are talking about the average age of the entire fleet, of a certain sub-fleet of one carrier or a single aircraft (e.g. the oldest 747 flying)? Probably being a little more specific would result in more precise answers. Just a friendly hint for future requests.  Smile

My (tongue in cheek) suggestion would be Ju-Air. They have a fleet of three or four JU-52, built somewhen in the 1930's and 40's.


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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:13 pm

As far as US majors go, I would guess that NW has the oldest fleet. They have so many DC-9s and DC-10s, their average aircraft age has to be pretty high.
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:17 pm

VASP has a few 737-200s build back in 1969 AND that were delivered directly to VASP, so, more than 30 years in service with the same airline. Here´s one of them:


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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:18 pm

Ssides:

Actually, there are some charter companies in the midwest using DC-3s. I think they might be a bit older.  Big grin
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:24 pm

Elwood, they are using DC 3 for usual flights or (like Lufthansa their Ju 52) for historic/museumflights??
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:41 pm

For people who want to avoid old aircraft, it's better to look at the equipment used by the competing airlines on the specific route you plan to take. For example, if someone avoided NWA because of the old DC-9's but was traveling to Europe, they would miss out on the newest transatlantic equipment, their new A330's.

Personally, I consider maintenance to be much more important than aircraft age. I'd be much more likely to avoid flying on a newer plane with suspect maintenance than an older one with excellent maintenance. I'm always interested to hear anything about poor airline maintenance.

Last week I spoke with a recently retired AA pilot. He spoke very highly of their maintenance.
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:41 pm

Air India?
Biman?
PIA?
maybe...
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:52 pm

BUFJETS: "Last week I spoke with a recently retired AA pilot. He spoke very highly of their maintenance."

I would prefer asking FAA, Bufjets. Maybe a DL-pilot also would say, that DL-planes have high quality in maintenance but they had to pay lots of $$$ cause their maintenance was incomplete.
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:58 pm

Monach Airlines B757-2T7 20 years old

Monarch Airlines DC10-30 G-DMCA was flying at 23 years old , But is now to be broken up at Manchester.
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:00 am

Well i nColombia you have INTER that still uses DC-9/15 And they are pretty old  Smile

On other hands you can go to Villavicencio and you can see some pretty cheap airlines that still fly with DC-3, DC-4, looks ofr some pictures n the database with Vilalvicencio has the lace and you'll see!

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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:38 am

The oldest aircraft in scheduled service with a scheduled service airline is the G73T Turbine Mallards in service with Chalks Ocean Airways. At least according to aviation maintanance magazine which did a story on them last July. They also happen to be worlds oldest airline. The carrier dates to 1919 and the airplanes to the late 1930s and early 1940s... They do not make the flying boats like that anymore.

The web address for them is http://www.flychalks.com really a cool operation.
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:39 am

Air Transat uses the oldest L1011-150 at present.
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sat Sep 13, 2003 12:22 pm

Hi,
Somebody mentioned of Air India.
I think they primarily have 2 types
742/ 743/ 744: I think these are 1982/83 made ?

A310 / A310: This I am not sure about.
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sat Sep 13, 2003 12:35 pm

I heard that once NW phases out their 742s, DC10s and DC9s in a few years, they should have one of the newest fleets around.
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sat Sep 13, 2003 12:37 pm

If you are in Homer, Alaska you can charter their 1929 Travel Air S6000B, that is still used for commercial Air Taxi operations.

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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sat Sep 13, 2003 7:34 pm

Any airline flying the DC-3 would have to be the oldest, but I think a lot of replies have been which airlines have been operating the oldest jet aircraft.
I know aerocontinente in Peru was operating the 727-100 now some 30 years old
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:37 pm

Syrian Air operates Boeing 727 , 747 with average age 27 years .
Libyan Arab Airlines Boeing 727 with average age of 30 years .
Iran Air Boeing 747 , 727 with average age 30 years .
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:44 pm

What a pitty that G-DMCA at MAN will be broken up  Sad

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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:50 am

Orient Thai Airlines uses 747-100 and 747-200's that were built in 1970's.
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:33 am

In Colombia until 1997 there wqas an iarline that operted the CATALINA!!!!!
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:59 am

Some African Airlines still use 1950's 707s.
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 3:27 am

What about European Air Charter?
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 4:08 am

I read fairly recently that the oldest fleet out of North American carriers is Midwest Airlines. Although NWA is still has its DC-9s they have a lot of newer aircraft (A330s, A320s, A319s, 757-300s). Midwest is using a lot of MD80s and are only starting to receive 717s.
 
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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:31 am

Aren't United's early 767-222's pushing 20 years old?

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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:13 am

Somebody said Air India....I thought there was some law over there saying that planes in India have to be retired from commercial service once they hit 20 years old. Is this true?

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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:41 am

I would say Pan Am,

they are using alot of 727's for their operations.

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RE: Which Airline Uses The Oldest Aircrafts?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:44 pm

In addition to Pan Am (as BWIA330 mentioned), there are also several American charter carriers that operate a sizeable fleet of old 727s, some of these carriers include: Falcon Air Express, Planet Airways, and Sunworld International Airlines.

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