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What's Become Of Fokker?

Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:17 pm

I read several years ago that the company that produces Fokker aircraft was to be liquidated.... can't remember the exact reasons, other than financial difficulties and unprofitability due to high labour costs (correct me if i'm wrong)

So, I believe the Fokker 50 and 100 are no longer in production (again, correct me if i'm wrong) - where do their operators get their spare parts from?Are there suitable alternatives to pick from when it's time to retire & replace them? Would be a great shame if one day the F50 becomes extinct.
 
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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:36 pm

I believe a Taiwanese firm acquired the type certificates and associated supplementals and intellectual property to allow them to provide parts and services. Probably not a great investment.
 
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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:16 pm

Fokker still exists, but doesnt make airplanes anymore. It creates amongst other things spare parts. It is also involved in developing new materials and engineering techniques.

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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 12:45 am

Dutch industrial conglomerate Stork bought the Fokker design rights including the certificate of airworthiness. They are the ones officially responsible for the spare parts, but most of it is made by others. Heavy maintenance is done by Stork/Fokker at one of their fascilities, the largest being Woensdrecht (NL).

Some Fokker departments are still going strong:
* Fokker services, the maintenance department;
* Fokker Aerostructures, components for amongst other the Gulfstream, Airbusses and various fighters;
* Fokker Space, mainly solar panels;
* Fokker Special Products, military equipment;
* Fokker Elmo, airframe stuctures, electrical systems

http://www.fokker.nl/

Apparently Rekkof is still trying to restart production of the Fokker F70. Well, their website has been updated recently (may 6, 2003) so there is still someone. Big grin

http://www.rekkof.nl/
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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:47 am

It would be great if Rekkof would re-launch the Fokker 100 and 70. These are great airplanes that in my opinion are far superior to the Bombardier and Embraer regional jets I've flown in. I hope it happens!

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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:49 am

Stork Fokker at Woensdrecht (NL) is still guarding over the operating and earmarked phased-out Fokker 100s and 50s worldwide by collecting and warehousing spare parts, maintenance and paintshop services. Stork is continuing to stimulate the presence of airworthy Fokkers.

The revived Fokker programm for the F100 is called Future 100. Next year Stork will start up the programm for the F50 called Future 50. There are plans to re-start building Fokkers under the name Rekkof in China.

The Fokkers were their time far ahead regarding technology and performances. Fokker's marketing failed and the market was not ready yet. Fokker Aircraft became victime of it's own qualities and alas went bankrupted.
 
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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 4:21 am

It would be great if Rekkof would re-launch the Fokker 100 and 70. These are great airplanes that in my opinion are far superior to the Bombardier and Embraer regional jets I've flown in. I hope it happens!


Rekkof is Fokker spelled backwards.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 4:37 am

You think?

lol

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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 4:38 am

Rekkof is Fokker spelled backwards.

At least we know that at some point, startup companies will be marketing their new Chinese-built Subria S-300B4 and the Gnieob G-727-200 to various carriers!  Big grin
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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:22 am

I think it's funny that that Rekkof site looks like it uses Project Fokker 100/70 models of Flight Simulator 2002/2004 fame for at least one of the pictures.....
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RE: What's Become Of Fokker?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 10:04 am

Well the F70/F100 could be replaced by aircraft like the CRJ, and the F50 by the Dash 8, so when they retire there is replacement.

But to tell the truth, I think the F28/F70/F100 beats a CRJ or a Jungle Jet anyday

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