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A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 1:43 am

I just cruised by Airbus' website order and delivery section and saw that 260 A310s have been ordered but only 255 have been delivered, leaving 5 units still on order. Does anyone know who the customer is, and will they be passenger or freighter models? I was under the obviously mistaken impression the A310 production line was finished! And if this has been addressed before my apologies, but I couldn't get the search feature to produce an answer.

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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 1:49 am

I think these are a long standing order for 5 that Libyan Arab Airlines placed before sanctions were imposed by US & UN.

Spookily, see the thread at http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1192427/

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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 1:50 am

Personally, I'd be surprised to see LAA take these up now, but the order on the books could be a handy bargaining chip now that UN sanctions have been lifted.

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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:01 am

These aircrafts where ordered by Iraqi Airways before the first gulf war, after sanctions they could not be delivered, or made.

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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:06 am

this is an old unfulfilled order from Iraqi Airways.
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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:51 am

Is Airbus still taking orders for the A310? Are PIA's aircraft going to be new builds?
 
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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 3:25 am

Oops, I meant Iraqi Airways Embarrassment
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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 4:01 am

Even though the A310 line is not officially closed, Airbus has not been marketing the type for some time now. Instead, they seem to offer the larger A330-200 to customers. For this reason, it is most likely that PIA will be leasing the additional A310s needed for their fleet.

The last A310 was built in 1998, I think it went to Uzbekistan Airways.

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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 4:30 am

Hey,

You guys mean the A310 is not in production anymore ?!?

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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 4:47 am

The A310 and passenger verions of the A300 fall under the odd category of airliners that are no longer actively marketed by the manufacturer, but are available if an airline would place an order.......its a gray area, since airliners are rarely built without an order, so what is the difference? To make it simple, as long as the A300 line is open and producing freighters, Airbus can supply an A310 (or passenger A300, as was done for JAS a few years ago) should an airline really want one. Of course, Airbus would much rather sell an A332 than and A310, but that is another issue.

The best example I can think of is Continentals purchase of 10 762s which they received a couple of years ago.....until CO's order (part of their 764 deal I believe), a 762 had not come off of the 767 production line for about 4 years I think and Boeing was not actively marketing the type. CO needed an airliner for long range services that was smaller than the 764, so Boeing built 10 new 762s for Continental with some of new features (including the interior style) of the 764s.
 
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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 4:54 am

Hey,

Dutchjet, thanks for clearing that up. I would be very sad to see the A310 go.

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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 5:24 am

Problem is that that best replacement for an A300 is likely another A300 since there is not anything new in that segment...
 
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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sat Sep 13, 2003 5:36 am

The same with the 300, there´s some in order,
UPS got A300F4-6??, buildt 2001......
Maybe FedEx orders the remaining 310´s, can´t
imagine theyré to be pax a/c.
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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:50 am


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I think the JAS A306 order was more recent than a couple of years ago, infact have they all been delivered to JAL yet?
JAS just couldnt find a suitable replacement for their 20 year old A300s and ordered new passenger A300s. If airbus carries on delaying an A306/A313 replacement or update, I could see another couple of orders for the types trickeling through maybe from Lufthansa or some other airline that apreciates them.
 
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RE: A310 Order/delivery Question

Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:10 pm

All 3 of JAS's recent A-300 orders have been filled. JAS has also recently eliminated at least one older (B2/B4?) A-300, which is flying in full JAS colors minus titles for a charter company.

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