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Atlantic Coast News?

Tue Sep 16, 2003 8:10 pm

Any news re: ACA?
Are they just waiting for UALs death rattle?
I understand that employee `new name for ACA' suggestions number in the thousands.....
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RE: Atlantic Coast News?

Tue Sep 16, 2003 8:45 pm

The SkyWest announcement yesterday about ordering the new CR7's
is indicative of where UA is taking their express business and it's not all at DEN, so there is most likely a new agreement with SyWest to be their primary carrier at WashDC, so it appears as though ACA will certainly drop from the scene as far as UA is concerned, and whatever moniker they decide on will become the East Coasts new Low Fare Carrier.
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RE: Atlantic Coast News?

Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:40 pm

I think it will be very interesting to see what ACA does in the near future. The idea of going independent is a very interesting idea indeed. I would have thought that with UAL wanting to drop them, ACA would try to offer their services to another airline, but this does not seem to be the case. I've always wondered if a new entrant could fly just regional jets and make a profit?

It would seem to me, just my opinion of course, that ACA would be best to stay away from Airbus or Boeing aircraft and maybe adopt a point-to-point structure with all of the CRJs. Not sure if it could work, but it would be an interesting concept nevertheless, and might just give Southwest, JetBlue, and Air Tran a run for their money on the east coast market.
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RE: Atlantic Coast News?

Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:41 am

I will have to check with friends of mine still working at DH to find out the latest. I am glad now that I am no longer working there. But I do seriously think that ACA should the name as is. It is a name that has lasted for 13 years and should stay.

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RE: Atlantic Coast News?

Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:01 am

It's not possible to be a low cost carrier with the fleet they have. Their seat mile costs have got to be astronomical!

The may likely survive..but not as a LCC. They'll get eaten alive.
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RE: Atlantic Coast News?

Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:29 am

I have been expecting one (or more) of the regional airlines to attempt to "go it alone" since they all started putting RJs in their fleets over the last decade. It's my hope that ACA can make this concept work. And they can if they look to under-served markets with higher yields.

ACA's hub at IAD gives them an attractive destination to offer to service-starved cities like Macon, Daytona Beach, Montgomery, Norfolk, Erie, Albany, Akron-Canton, Toledo, Evansville, Springfield, Ft. Wayne, etc.. In some cases, they may be able to negotiate local subsidies to bring in service. I believe developing this sort of market niche would work.
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RE: Atlantic Coast News?

Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:37 am

ACA is still in denial about its future. Without a major carrier to feed, it's history.
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RE: Atlantic Coast News?

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:41 pm

Has anyone walked through ACA's concourse at Dulles and experiences the chaos there? I've never heard so many different accents. How anyone understands the announcements I'll never know. I think they've let arrogance get the best of them and they're cutting their own throats.
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RE: Atlantic Coast News?

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:45 pm

I've never actually made it onto an ACA flight at Dulles.

I've booked 14 United Express flights from IAD to various East Coast cities, mostly CMH. Every one has either been cancelled, or delayed to the point where my trip is useless.

I started taking my CMH business to US from DCA, or if my corp. travel rep was being sassy I'd end up on HP. Not that its a bad thing, I always prefered the 319 to the DC-9.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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