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The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:36 pm

The year 2003 has been a remarkable year for the A320 Family, the leader in the single-aisle market. This family has now earned its place in the record books as the most successful aircraft family ever with over 3,000 aircraft sold. Over 2,000 A320 Family aircraft are now in-service, a number unmatched in the history of civil jet aviation, making it the most popular jetliner ever.

http://www.airbus.com/airbus4u/articles_detail.asp?ae_id=1365

Congratulations Airbus. Great success story.
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:57 pm

The fact isthat over 3000 (or 4000) 737s have been built/sold, so the Airbus claim that
making it the most popular jetliner ever.
is total crap.
Maybe its got the most in service atm, but that doesnt make it the most popular.
Airbus propoganda again  Insane  Insane
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:19 am

http://www.boeing.com/history/boeing/737.html

Boeing's 737 is the most successful.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:36 am

I am not pro or against Airbus but I think they are right: Over 2,000 A320 Family aircraft are now in-service. Even if Boeing has built 3000 737, they are far from having them all in service (I think about 1800 are in service nowadays).
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:41 am

Yes, I see your point. The word "successful" can be used and interpreted in many different ways. . .especially on A.net.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:07 am

There is one "family" that will never be surpassed:
More than 12,000 DC-3 / C-47's were built.
Airbus and Boeing; BEAT THAT  Big thumbs up

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:21 am

Boeing has made more 737's than Airbus has made aircraft!
There isn't even a comparison.

I like both..but let's give credit where it's due..
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:53 am

I would guess that it's rthe 737 follow by the A320.
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:04 am

Greg is absolutely right:
Boeing has built close to 4500 737's all series, total number of ALL aircraft built by Airbus,; around 3420.........

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:07 am

May I ask in what year did the B737-100 enter service and how many years since that till subsequent developments up to the current NG family?

And in what year did the A320 enter service? 1988? I think it would be a better comparison as such with the EIS years taken into consideration.

All in all, both are great! You gotta love those 737NGs with winglets! Gorgeous!

 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:21 am

My 11-year old son is learning about statistics, and especially, the "misuse of statistics". Depending on how the statement is written, the B737 family, or the A320, or the DC-3 could be the most "successful" airliner ever built.

Truth is, having flown on both the B737 and the A320 families, there is no big difference for the passenger.
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:25 am

Kempa: Except for the dodgy noises around takeoff and landing....  Big grin
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:40 am

What about the combined DC-9/MD80/MD90/717 fleet? Anyone have numbers on that?
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:41 am

Dispatch:

You beat me to it. The DC-3 sold more than 10,300 copies both as a civilian airliner and as the C-47. At one time, more than 5,000 were in service with airlines around the world.

However, the statement was that the A-320 was the most successful jetliner in history. I have problems with that. More than 4,000 737s have been built, and about 2,500 DC-9/MD-80/90/717-200s (976 DC-9, 1200+? MD-80 and MD-90, and over 125 717) have entered service since 1967. The A-320 has a long way to go in both instances.
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:42 am

Beltwaybandit: I tallied up those totals once (which I've since misplaced) but as I recall, the total number of DC-9's and its variants was somewhere around 2000.

I'll see if I can dig up my calculations.
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:46 am

I think true success is measured over the long term. The 70 year old DC-3 and 30+ year old 737 and DC-9 families have proved their worth far more than the A-320 family has. The A-320 may have a case in 2020 when they have a comparable track record.

It isn't purely the number of airframes built, it is how that design performs and evolves over time.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:51 am

Thanks for the additional information. Well at least Airbus can say that they have the fastest selling aircraft of all times. I was especially impressed by this statement:

The rapid expansion of the A320 Family is reflected in the production rate with one A320 Family aircraft coming out of the Airbus assembly lines in Toulouse and Hamburg every working day.
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:55 am

 Wow! one EVERY DAY?!?!  Nuts
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:01 am

Yes at that rate it wont take long to beat the 737.

There is one "family" that will never be surpassed:
More than 12,000 DC-3 / C-47's were built.
Airbus and Boeing; BEAT THAT


How many of those where airliners?
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:04 am

Definitely the 737. Take a look on Boeing's website. There is some really interesting facts about the 737 there.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:09 am

The B747, not any aircraft has brought in so much money for it´s manufacturer like this birds has (B747 was a great promoter for other Boeing planes as well)....
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:12 am

My two cents on this is, I think the A-320 family in time will surpass the B737 family.

However, it has a long way to go before Airbus will surpass the DC-3/C-47.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:16 am

Yes, Boeing has sold more 737s than Airbus has sold their A32Xs.

It depends on how you would define "successful". However it is unfair to say that 737 is the more successful than A32Xs. As already mentioned by AirbusLover, when did 737 production started? and when did A32X?
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:23 am

Lot of interesting answers and criteria, posted here.


For me though the B737 family has got to be the "best-selling jetliner family" of all time, both right now and likely for many many years to come (ie until such time as the A32Xs maybe will catch up).
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:30 am

While one can argue that the Airbus has produced more examples in a shorter amount of time than the 737, you also have to remember that the A320 was born into a much more favorable market to sell more examples. Simply put, I would venture a guess that there are MANY more people flying these days than those of which the 737 was born into. But again, to make comparisons between these two aircraft is purely subjective. There are too many factors involved to find out which one is TRUELY more sucessful. Airbus's claim is basically THEIR subjective analysis.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:31 am


Truth is, having flown on both the B737 and the A320 families, there is no big difference for the passenger.


There's quite a difference.

I don't know if many others do this but when I have to fly in the back, I will pick a Boeing-legged flight over an Airbus-legged flight/segment anyday. I just think Boeing planes are, all other things being equal, safer.


My two cents on this is, I think the A-320 family in time will surpass the B737 family.


Sure, and the government coffers of the international consortium participants are quite a few hundred million euros less (many $.02s) than they would be so Airbus can sweatheart some deals.
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:35 am

The DC-9 family has been incredibly successful to still be flying some large fleets (NW, Midwest) after 37 years of service. And they will make it over 40 soon. WOW!


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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:42 am

We all know that the B 737 is the most successful family of aircraft ever, so why not make this forum more interesting by asking which family of aircraft for long haul high density of flights apart from the B 747 is the most popular?

My answer the Boeing 767, other contenders are A 340, B 777 followed by AB6s then A 330s.

Are their more A 340s around than B 777s? I dont know but I doubt it as UAL has 50, AA has over 20, JAL-ANA have over 20, then EK too has a lot then KR-TG-CX-BA (30+)-AF etc etc.

The biggest A 340 customers today are LH-AF-CX and soon to be EK.
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:52 am

Probably the most accurate comparisons you could do would be between the 777 and the A340/330 families, and possibly the MD-11 although we know what the outcome would be if we compared it to the previously mentioned aircraft. Since the 777 and A340/330 are similar in both form and function and both being manufactured in the same era, I'd say that the 777, with all it's hype and great sales has surpassed the Airbus.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:57 am

I think it'll be quite some time before the A320 even comes close to surpassing the 737's production total. A bit over 4400 737's have been produced and there's currently an 800 order backlog. Some 2000 A320's have been produced, with ~1000 orders outstanding. While the A320 total is increasing by one a day, the 737 total is increasing at a rate only slightly less than that; over the last four years, one 737 has rolled off the line every 1.2 days or so.

While Airbus is clearly closing the gap, there's a 2400 plane shortfall -- that's some enormous ground to make up.
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:05 am

Not to mention that the 737 is continuing production, which may keep the gap wide open. But eventually, the market will become saturated with A32X's and NG737's, if it hasn't started to already.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:11 am

lol@Ual747 - what about 320? Airbus stopped production?
Since how many years Boeing produces 737?
Since how many years Airbus produces 320?
And you can't compare 737 with 320, you have to compare 737-family with airbus318-321-family.

But anyway - both planes are great quality. So both are successfull.
Comparing production# from 737 with Airbus isn't fair cause Boeing had more time to sell the planes.
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:12 am

Actually, you can bend the stats even further..cause the 73NG has, in fact, sold faster than the 320....(about same number of frames over less years)....
Boeing can confirm that!
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:26 am

Greg, I am sure, Boeing will confirm that.
And you can be sure that I don't believe the confirmation from Boeing (or Airbus).
You are talking about the 320 but what about 321 and 319.
And un-american (booooooh, bad bad airline) Frontiere is already flying the 318.
I think it's childish to count each aircraft.
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:31 am

Yes guys - count 737-200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 but only A320 not 319 etc.

See - you may manipulate this as you want. It is a cliche like: "we are the biggest airline in the world" - but wait... what does it mean?
Biggest revenues, biggest fleet, biggest number of pax carried, biggest number of daily flights etc...?

These kind of discusion does not make any sense as everyone may get to the result that they wish to see.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:35 am

Since the topic is AIRCRAFT and not AIRLINER, and if you consider "successful" to mean the most quantity built, I suggest that the Cessna 172 should be considered for the list.
From 1955 to 1986 Cessna built 33,629 172s in Wichita, Kansas. That number does not include the new 172s that were started production in 1996, nor the 172s built in Reims France (2,144).

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:36 am

One of the funniest things I see is that if you go to the Airbus website, they announce themselves as the industry leader in commercial airplanes.


If you go to the Boeing website, they also announce themselves...as the industry leader in commercial airplanes.

There's propaganda on both sides.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:40 am

Just select the criteria right and each one of us can be "world record holder", "world champion", "best of all times", and so on. Therefore the question makes no sense as long as you don't define the term 'successful'.

Any by the way: Airbus is much more successful!! Or was it Boeing?

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:41 am

lol@ Aloha. That is why I told Greg: "And you can be sure that I don't believe the confirmation from Boeing (or Airbus)."
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:44 am

This data is about 1 month old.

737 Family
Built : 3,132 (classic), 1,344 (NG), Total: 4,476
Total Built + Outstanding firm orders : 5,308
Built since 1988*: 2,965 (1,621 classics, 1,344 NGs)

* 1988 was the year of introduction of the A320.


A320 Family
Built : 1,954
Total Built + Outstanding firm orders : 3,096
Built since 1988*: 1,954

Source: Servaas Verbrugge

So the 737 has outsold the A320 by far, including in the numbers only since the A320 introduction.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:50 am

Stefandotde,

Again you have failed to see my point. Whether it's a language barrier or something else, I don't know.

"lol@Ual747 - what about 320? Airbus stopped production?"

First of all, LOL@YOU for not understanding...

I never said Airbus has stopped production on the A32X/19. What I was saying is that Boeing is still continuing to produce the 737, which will increase it's total orders since inception. Currently there is a gap between the total number of 737's produced and the total numbers of it's Airbus equivalent produced. What I'm trying to say is that if Boeing keeps producing the 737 at the rate it's going, there is likely to be a continuous gap in numbers produced between the two companies for a long time to come.

"Since how many years Boeing produces 737?"
"Since how many years Airbus produces 320?"

Like I have stated before, I am aware that the 737 has been produced longer than the A320. But you have to take into account the markets that these planes were born into to understand their success or lack thereof. Re-read my previous posts and hopefully it will make sense. I have tried to explain some things to you before in other threads but you never could understand me, so I might be trying in vain here.

"And you can't compare 737 with 320, you have to compare 737-family with airbus318-321-family."

I WAS comparing the entire A32x/19 family with the 737. I stated it as A32X to represent the entire family. Again, re-read my posts.

"But anyway - both planes are great quality. So both are successfull.
Comparing production# from 737 with Airbus isn't fair cause Boeing had more time to sell the planes."

Re-read my arguments in previous posts and you will see I was simply making a point about the subjectiveness of such comparisons and how both Boeing and Airbus can use these figures to promote their products.

Okay, now I'm really frustrated...

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:30 am

Stefandotde:

The fact that the A320 has sold more examples in the same period of time is still a subjective analysis. Comparing the DC-9 family to the 737 is valid, because the only variable is the airframe. Both were introduced in the late 70s. Both were for short-medium haul flights. Both were designed for 60-120 passengers, depending on model. Both were offered by companies with a ong, historic track record for great airliners.

The fact is, there is no way to quantitatively compare the A32X to the 737 without accounting for numerous variables, such as economics of the period, relative size of the airline fleets, number of available substitutes (i.e. usable parked aircraft0, and others, and coming to a consensus on how to best to deal with them in the analysis.

An objective organization, like the ICAO or IATA, or a magazine like Fortune, The Economist, or Euro-Monitor, would probably be the best to do it, but I doubt any of them is interested in settling the matter.
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:31 am

Technically, Airbus is right. You see, they compare the number of A32X planes produced not to the total number of 737s, but to the three different generations (737-1/200, -3/4/500, and -6/7/8/900), as they see those three families as different planes. And let's be honest, they have a point. The only thing the 737-100 shares with, say, the -900, is the shape of the nose and the form of the fuselage, so it's along shot calling them the same plane, or even part of the same family.

Anyway, it's a good way to show how you can manipulate numbers any way you like...

SwissINTLA340,

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:28 am

Osteogenesis, I generally respect your posts but you and others, here, who embark on accolading a manufacturer based solely on their own hype must be taken to task. While it might be accurate for Airbus to claim the A320 family is the fastest selling aircraft, it's a bold-faced LIE for them to claim it's "the most successful aircraft family ever" and frankly, THEY should be taken to task for doing so, as should Boeing when it makes such a hollow statement. After being caught up in their lie and called on it you state: "Well at least Airbus can say that they have the fastest selling aircraft of all time." But that wasn't what they said, was it. It's quite fair to count all 737s, including Classics in Boeing's total as it IS basically the same airframe, only updated in the next-gen series with a new wing and other tweaks, just as it's fair to count all Airbus A320-based models from the 318 to the 321 in Airbus's total. And I swear to God, the first part of that second statement: "Over 2,000 A320 Family aircraft are now in-service, a number unmatched in the history of civil jet aviation, making it the most popular jetliner ever." had better be true (the last part definitely isn't) or I may just get on their website and fire off the nastiest of emails to all concerned. Does anyone here truly know how many 737s ARE still in service? Chime in if you do. Now, Boeing is often as guilty of this and when they are, feel free to point it out and I'll send them a nasty email as well, if it's possible. Don't be so quick to buy into the hype and at least check out the other manufacturers hype as well; there's often TWO versions of the truth, neither of which is absolutely correct. To fall so quickly for such a claim paints one as gullible, something I don't believe you are. Try in the future to read between the lines of such statements, keeping in mind there's an agenda at work. Thanks.


 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:37 am

What do you define as a family? Isn't 727 and 757 more similar than 737-100 and 737-900?
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:41 am

"Isn't 727 and 757 more similar than 737-100 and 737-900?"

No.
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:40 pm

Technically, Airbus is right. You see, they compare the number of A32X planes produced not to the total number of 737s, but to the three different generations (737-1/200, -3/4/500, and -6/7/8/900), as they see those three families as different planes. And let's be honest, they have a point.

Bullcrap. If they compare to the NG, they compare to an airplane that has only been on sale for 5 years, and the inverse with the classic.

No - the best way to compare is how many 737s and A320s have been built between 1988 and 2003, which is the period in which both airplanes were available. And in that time, the 737 has outsold the A320 by some 50%, according to the numbers I supplied above.

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:43 pm

I agree with Cfalk.


And, if we're all going to call for equal comparison, and ask that the numbers of the A321 and A319 sales be included in comparison against the 737, then we also have to include the entire 737 line. The 731 may be a different plane than the 739, but the 321 is also different from the A320. If you're going to compare the sales of the entire A320 family against the 737, then you have to include the sales of the entire 737 line as well, and that goes back to the 737-100.

If we're comparing entire families here we have to be fair. And the fact that the 737 lasted long enough to have upgrades from the original airframe, to the 737 classic, and now to the NG, should be a testament to it's success. The mere idea that the original model was so successful as to be able to replace ITSELF, should warrant the inclusion of all past sales.

But again, if we want to be really, really fair and compare only those sales from 1988 onwards, the 737 still wins.
 
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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:24 pm

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RE: The Most Successful Aircraft Family Ever

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:44 pm

Service Entry Dates

737NG.......98 (Dec 97)
A32X.........88

Units delivered

just over 5 years 737NG 1344+(300+ classics 1998-2000) total 1644+
just over 15 years A32X (10 more years)...............................1954

See reply 40 for data, from what I can tell is accurate. I added the classic production between 1998 and 2000 when production haulted.

Lets see you slant the data.