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Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:14 am

Were you spooked, nervous?  Nuts

Did they CHANGE the flight # the next day?
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:24 am

If it's a crash - crash, they change the number. If it's merely an incident, then they don't change it.
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:56 am

I have been an agent working at least 2 DL flights that ended up as
crashed.
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:49 am

Not a day but a week after, on 17 June 1975 , same flight number AF191 BKK/CDG via BOM where N28888 was burned to ashes after an aborted take off. Pax and crew all evacuated safely thank god !
I felt somewhat uncomfortable when I saw the tail fin along the runway upon landing !
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:09 am

Correction : actual flight N° was AF193/18JUN
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:33 am

Sometimes they continue to use the same Flight Numbers. Eastern 401 crashed in 1972, yet you could still fly Eastern 401 from JFK to MIA until 1988.
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:52 am

I thought they retire the number if there is a crash. I don't recall there ever being another Northwest Flight 25 after the Aug 17 1987 crash
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:08 am

TWA Flight 800 the day before. Still have the ticket.
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:11 am

I thought they retire the number if there is a crash.

Only if it's an oddball number. I.E. flight #1 wouldn't be retired.

[Edited 2003-09-18 04:12:02]
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:34 am

CLEspotter, WOW! That's pretty eerie.

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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:37 am

Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

If the plane crashed the day before you flew on it, then there is no way you could have been on that plane when it crashed the day before.

The day before would have been the current day.

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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:23 pm

If the plane crashed the day before you flew on it, then there is no way you could have been on that plane when it crashed the day before.

Flight silly... not plane.

Flyingbronco -

This is an international forum. Your comments are completely out of line under any circumstance.

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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:26 pm

AA Kept the 001 flight number to this day on the same route (JFK-LAX) that it crashed.
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:01 pm

Northwest Airlines Flight 255, not 25, crashed on August 17, 1987. Out respect to those crew members and passengers whose lives were lost, the airline retired the flight number that day.

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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:17 pm

the closest to that I came was when I flew on a United DC-10 about a month before it crashed in Iowa due to a catastrophic failure of the #2 (tail-mounted) engine. The fan disk failure was a pre-existing problem that was evident even while I flew this plane, on a LAX-ORD flight back in the 1980s.

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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:00 pm

This might be a little bit off topic, but the same day or day after September 11, Scandinavian Airlines changed the flight number of their daily CPH-EWR from SK 911 to SK 909.
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:43 pm

I my self have cannot go to that extent however I did fly on QF VH-OJH back in 2002 to Hong Kong (the same plane that overshot the runway in Bangkok in 1999), Heard the damage bill was 100 million dollars. She still flys so perfect no imperfections


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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:34 pm

My mother flew on TW Flight 800 the following day. They did not change the flight number immediately. She said it was very odd!

She still has her ticket from the day of the actual crash- the only reason she did not take that flight was because her doctor told her to wait for results of a Lyme disease test! Needless to say, my mother and that doctor are very good friends now! She was interviewed by all the papers in France when she go to the other side of the pond as the word had been leaked that she was actually booked on the fatal flight 800.

Needless to say, TWA did not charge her a change fee to fly the next day  Smile

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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:38 am

the closest to that I came was when I flew on a United DC-10 about a month before it crashed in Iowa due to a catastrophic failure of the #2 (tail-mounted) engine. The fan disk failure was a pre-existing problem that was evident even while I flew this plane, on a LAX-ORD flight back in the 1980s.

Chris in NH


What? That is an incredibly arrogant statement.

You're saying that this mechanical anomaly was blatantly obvious to you, an untrained average passenger riding in the cabin, with no view of the engine itself; yet it went undetected by the maintenance and flight professionals of one of the world's largest airlines? That's ludicrous.

Even the flight attendants, who work underneath the behemoth DC10 #2 power plant day in and day out would have detected a deviation in the noise.

Your audacity is insulting.

Travis



 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:52 am

Travatl, I think what our friend is saying is that the flaw in the disc on that ill-fated UAL DC10 was already in place (indeed the damage was done before the engine left the factory), not that he was aware of it on his flight to Vegas in the mid 80s. 'Pre-evident' should probably have been substituted with the slightly different 'pre-existing'. And as for you Travatl, you shouldn't be so harsh if you don't know what you're talking about either: (1) an engine that's about to blow will sound exactly like one which is in perfect working order, you don't get ANY warning with jets; and (2) in the rare instance that an engine sounds "kinda funny" (frankly, it would never work out this way but we'll see it through...) a flight attendent would be fairly unlikely to either notice, report it or be taken seriously on such an intangible mechanical issue that takes place outside the aircraft.
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:03 am

Petazula,
Was your mother the one interviewed by the New York papers on July 18, 1996, holding a ticket for the ill-fated flight from the day before? If so, I remember that.
She is more than just a little lucky... I would imagine something like that would be a life changing experience.

TWA didn't change the '800' flight number for a couple of days, but that route was flown by 767s after the crash.

None shall pass!!!!
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:13 am

SQ mantain flight SQ6 for another 2 weeks before changing to SQ 30/29.

I flew 9V-SPK three times in the year which was crashed.

HKG - SFO Jan
SFO - HKG Jan
SFO - SIN July

I was seated 1B on all flights.


 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:23 am

Not a good discussion, especially if 200 or 300 lives were lost on that flight.
I would rebook a later flight if that senario happened.
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:44 am

In january 1992, I flew on an Air Inter Airbus A320 F-GGED between Paris-ORLY and LYON-LYS.

On its next segment LYS-SXB (Strasburg) the plane crashed on the mount Saint-Odile, a few miles out of SXB airport, 10 mn before landing.
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:53 am

I photographed Air Sunshine Cessna 402 N314AB at FLL just 48 hours before it crashed in the Bahamas, killing 2 and injuring 8...

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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:37 am

Richierich,
I am not sure if that was my mother. She was on the front page of the french newspapers (one I remember in particular was Ouest France). As for US papers, I was travelling in Argentina at the time and do not remember.

It was quite a sobering moment for my whole family! We were the lucky ones...
 
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RE: Ever Been On A Flight That Crashed The Day Before?

Thu Sep 25, 2003 7:07 am

Dear VC-10, FlyingBronco et al,

Before you jump down 727Lover's throat, I would like to add that what he posted was perfect English and has been misconstrued by yourselves. He is asking whether anyone has been on a flight scheduled to fly the exact same routing and flight number as a flight that had crashed one day earlier........ e.g. If you were ticketed to fly on TWA800 on the 10th (for instance) and the same flight number crashes on the 9th, would your flight operate as TWA800 given the recent catastrophe or would it be changed straight away?

Just clarifying things!  Smile Still don't get where some of the agro comes from!