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A316 And A317

Sun Sep 21, 2003 10:46 pm

I remember seeing in an Aviation Week Magazine a few years back that Airbus had plans to make an A316 and an A317. I had seen models of them.

Is Airbus still considering making them, or did they give up once the CRJ 900 and the ERJ 190s started coming out?
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RE: A316 And A317

Sun Sep 21, 2003 10:54 pm

Surely these a/c would be incredibly heavy?

Sounds interesting, I'd like to hear more though!

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RE: A316 And A317

Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:03 pm

With the A318, Airbus went technically to the maximum of possibilities in shrinking the original A320 (look all the problems they had with the vertical stabilizer etc...).
With an even smaller aircraft, Airbus would attack the regional market and would have to re-design a complete new airplane. This would need a big investment, impossible to make now with the huge A380 project.
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RE: A316 And A317

Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:12 pm

The planes were called AE316 and AE317. They were to be of an entirely new design, not another A318 shrink. The planes were planned to be designed in co-operation with the Chinese. Plans were dropped in favor of the A318.
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RE: A316 And A317

Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:07 am

The A(E)316 and A(E)317 - if made years ago - would have been looked and been spec'd almost exactly like the Embraer 170 and 190.
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RE: A316 And A317

Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:08 am

"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
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RE: A316 And A317

Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:36 am

The A318 is already very hard to turn a profit on because of its high expenses and very low capacity. An A316 or A317 would be so small that Airbus would have to totally redisgn the aircraft because it would be virtually impossible to break even.
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RE: A316 And A317

Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:29 pm

The AE31X was a totally redesigned plane.

Smaller fuse, optimized wing, etc.

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RE: A316 And A317

Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:19 pm

Or how about the much awaited A307?

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RE: A316 And A317

Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:21 pm

Oops. Airbus is suing me. Their A313 landed on my arm and I squashed it. My bad.
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RE: A316 And A317

Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:24 pm

Excellent Pic!!! I can see the slogan now....

"A307... Where every row is an exit row!"

Always looking for the longest route with the most transfers.
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RE: A316 And A317

Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:48 pm

"Airbus A307. Making the BAe146 look good."

HS-748, just like a 747 but better!
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RE: A316 And A317

Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:02 am

hummm...with that A307...the commercial selling point could be 10,000 lbs of thrust per passenger .... Big grin
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RE: A316 And A317

Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:07 am

"Welcome to the future: The A307, the world's most advanced waste of aluminum."

At least it could glide to an airport if it lost power. That wingspan has to be twice the length of the fuselage!
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