essjay
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Nationwide From Jo'burg To London Gatwick

Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:50 am

Nationwide will be starting services between Johannesburg and London Gatwick on the 28th of November, using a leased 767-300. (Take a look @ www.flynationwide.co.za/press_releases.html for more info).

Does anyone know who they are leasing the aircraft from? I've never been on a 767, but it doesn't look like the best place to be for an 11-hour flight. I travel between SA and the UK fairly often and have grown quite fond of SAA's 747-400s (the dodgy 200s & 300s are a different story...glad these are being retired finally).

How well do you think Nationwide will do on this route? It will be the only non-stop service from Gatwick to JNB, but will people really want to try a "new" airline over the establishment: SA / BA / VS?
 
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RE: Nationwide From Jo'burg To London Gatwick

Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:52 am

Does a 767 even have the range to make this flight?
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donder10
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RE: Nationwide From Jo'burg To London Gatwick

Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:55 am

Good question given they plan to fly an all economy layout(albeit economy plus will be included).
 
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RE: Nationwide From Jo'burg To London Gatwick

Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:18 am

The B767 definately has the range for this service, since Sobelair flew this route from Brussels until recently. I wonder if they would consider also starting a Durban-Gatwick route, that seems like an ideal leisure route during the cold European winter. By the way, whatever happened to African Star Airlines?
 
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RE: Nationwide From Jo'burg To London Gatwick

Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:18 am

Sure, its within the range of a 767-300....AC operated 763's on YYZ-TLV which is nearly 200 miles longer than JNB-LGW...

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RE: Nationwide From Jo'burg To London Gatwick

Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:19 am

JNB-LGW = 5595mi.... which a 763ER is fundamentally capable of covering.
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RE: Nationwide From Jo'burg To London Gatwick

Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:19 am

since Sobelair flew this route from Brussels until recently
whose 763 we are now talking about in this thread Smile
 
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RE: Nationwide From Jo'burg To London Gatwick

Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:47 am

The range is not a problem but performance out of JNB is very much restricted by the altitude of the airport. On the VS A340's we lose 15-20T of payload compared to the southbound flight, depending on the temp etc.

It'll be nice to see a new operator at LGW though. Incidentally, I wonder if they'll still have the 'In co-operation with Virgin' stickers on the a/c?!
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