JohnJ
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JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:55 pm

I spent an enjoyable day of spotting yesterday down at JFK. I positioned myself not far from the end of Runway 31R and had a steady parade of planes go by, capped off by the arrival of BA 001, the Concorde. During the time I was there, all arrivals and departures were being handled on Runways 31R and 31L; the 4/22 runways did not seem to be in use at all from about 3 p.m. 'til about 5:30 p.m.

After the Concorde arrived, I did a quick loop around the cargo areas on the west end of the airport and noticed that the approach lights were lit for Runway 13L. Just about then a Delta 767 came in on 13L, so during the 15 minutes it took me to drive from the end of 31R down to the opposite end, the runway assignments changed. Very interesting. Anyway, on to the real reason for this post: as I was leaving the airport grounds eastbound on the Belt Parkway, I spotted what had to have been an IL-62 coming in over the Parkway on the Runway 22R approach. I wasn't very close, but the profile looked unlike any western airliner I've seen. In particular, the bulbuous projection on the top of the vertical stabilizer stood out. I was really disappointed to have missed seeing this up close. Is it common to see Russian-built airliners (not the more-common Russian cargo planes) at JFK? Even Aeroflot usually flies 767s there, so they can't be counted on. It would be nice to know if there's anyone who schedules one of these planes into the airport so I could plan in advance.
 
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:07 am

Just an addition: My FlightExplorer yesterday showed an IL76, flying Shannon-JFK... It could have been RA-78830, which was listed on a Shannon-log I got via mail.

Mike
 
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:09 am

Could you tell us more about this Shannon log? Are there others???
 
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:15 am

could it have been President Putin? He is supposed to be here this week for United Nations Meetings.

Maybe it was his Limosines and other Cargo?

Just an thought.
 
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:29 am

Petazulu, I believe President Putin flies on the IL-96 as the actual presidential airplane and the IL-62 is the support aircraft.


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JohnJ
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:29 am

Hmmm - interesting about the IL-76. I don't think that's the plane I saw, though. Even though the IL-76 has the bulbuous protrusion on the tail, the overall profile of the plane doesn't really match what I saw. It looked much more like an IL-62 - but I was a long way away and could certainly be wrong here. Plus, I'm not at all an expert in spotting Russian aircraft.
 
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:31 am

ILoveOrd, that IL-62 support aircraft is very likely what I saw come in - or at least a plane very much like it. The markings even look like what I remember.

Thanks, all, for the information.
 
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:10 am

@JAL777: To receive the Shannon-logs via mail, you have to subscibe to YAHOO's irish-spotters-group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/irish-spotters/?yguid=141178268

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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:57 am

This weekend/week, JFK will/have had seen a lot of "VIP" flights. An IL-62 or other Russian-types would be common at this time.

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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:35 am

"This weekend/week, JFK will/have had seen a lot of "VIP" flights. An IL-62 or other Russian-types would be common at this time."

During the 2 1/2 hours I was at JFK on Sunday, in addition to the IL-62, I also saw a BBJ (737) and an unmarked winglet-equipped 727, which probably fit into the VIP flight category.
 
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:42 am

From what I heard the 727 was Nigerian (government) and a Russian (government) IL-96 arrived very late on Friday night.
 
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:11 pm

Slightly off topic, but right now, there's another IL-62 crossing the Atlantic, routing Shannon-Andrews AFB... Flight SDM9011/State Transport Company is scheduled to arrive at Andrews at around 0830Z.

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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:00 pm

Where do they park all of these VIP aircraft?

Is AF1 here as well?

Thanks
 
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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:20 pm

>Slightly off topic, but right now, there's another IL-62 crossing the Atlantic, routing Shannon-Andrews AFB... Flight SDM9011/State Transport Company is scheduled to arrive at Andrews at around 0830Z.

Putin is invited to spend a night at Camp David (a gesture to demonstrate a difference between the attitudes towards Russia and France). So, the plane may be to support the Washington-area stay.

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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:42 pm

RA-78830 IL76 is used for transportation of the limousine. At least two IL-62 are used for support during each mission.

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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:10 pm

Where do they park all of these VIP aircraft?

Some stay at JFK while others dump the pax and head over to Andrews.

Is AF1 here as well?

Yes, parked at the old TWA hanger/ramp area.

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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:39 am

Well, there is another IL-62, flying from Shannon to Washington Dulles...

Flight SDM9035 is scheduled to arrive there at 2205Z, maybe to support the Putin-Visit

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RE: JFK Spotting & Russian Airliners At JFK

Sat Sep 27, 2003 12:54 pm

Some stay at JFK while others dump the pax and head over to Andrews.

Actually most of them headed over to IAD. We've had the following at IAD within the last two weeks:

Russian State Transport Company (SDM) IL-62:
RA-86467
RA-86540
RA-86710
RA-86712

IL-76 (SDM related):
RA-78818
RA-78830

French Air Force:
F-RBFA A319
F-RADA A310

Two Luftwaffe A310s (sorry no reg)

BWI: related to the NY activities we've seen the following
PK-GPG Garuda A330
CA-01 Belgian Air Force

Today at Andrews AFB (Putin visit):
RA-86559 IL-62
RA-86712 IL-62
RA-96012 IL-96

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