Viper777
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New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:35 pm

I've just been reading about a new low fare airline based in Zurich, Helvetic.
Are they serious with this colour scheme?!! Check it out at www.helvetic.com.

If it's true, that has got to be the brightest/loudest ever on an F100!!!

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:40 pm

Whoah that's a great colour scheme.

And yes, the airline is on a good way to take off soon, flying from ZRH to Valencia, Vienna and Alicante (+some charter destinations).

They plan to operate up to 10 Fokkers in the near future.

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Unique
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:40 pm

That is what I've heard about the colour scheme! Fancy, isn't it? It looks like their plans are grown quite far. Parent company is Odette Airways.
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:41 pm

If this is the colour scheme they are going to use, then I am totally horrified Big grin
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:41 pm

 
eham
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:43 pm

they received some valuable slots at Amsterdam, so maybe I can see (and fly) these Fokker 100s soon  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:43 pm

How awful !
http://www.helvetic.com/Default.aspx?PageID=Aircrafts
Barbie gets an aircraft  Laugh out loud
Will
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:44 pm

 Sad a few seconds late  Sad
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:57 pm

I doubt, ths aircrat will be all pink, like shown above. I mean a pink fuselage, why not. But pink wings, tails......? Let's wait and see.

However, looks fancy, yes. Something new to chase with my camera  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:04 pm

Acutally it's not a new airline. It's Odette Airways as they are changing the the into Helvetic
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:04 pm

I have to agree, these colours are bit too... pink. I wonder how the F/As will look like...  Smile

By the way, their first Fokker 100 from AA has already arrived in EMA, where they will prepare it for service with Helvetic.

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:07 pm

Aren't F100's not to expensive for a LCC? I thought 737's would be much more efficient....
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:11 pm

IATA should make a law of what colours you are allowed to use for airlines.
But this is tipical for the Swiss to use such colours.

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:15 pm

Why is this typical for the Swiss?

We live in a free country and use the colour schemes we like...

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:20 pm

Wouldn't it be more expensive to paint an ENTIRE aircraft like that?? Also, wouldn't the increased amount of paint weigh the plane down more?
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:26 pm

i think the scheme looks cool, but what type of customers would it attract?
homosexuals is one that springs to mind, along with young school girls on their first flight.... and thats about it!
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:32 pm

I thought 737's would be much more efficient....

Certainly, but you would have to sell much more seats to get the bird full. The F100 has 100 seats, Helvetic (as Germania...) are operating the F100 on routes where they don't expect to fill a 737.

And by the way, those Fokker 100s are obviously very cheap now...

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:43 pm

yep, but maintenance wil be more expensive every year.....
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:18 pm

Wouldn't it be more expensive to paint an ENTIRE aircraft like that?? Also, wouldn't the increased amount of paint weigh the plane down more?

Don't forget that white is also a colour and painted on the fuselage!
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:24 pm

ly334: "IATA should make a law of what colours you are allowed to use for airlines.
But this is tipical for the Swiss to use such colours."

Also don't like the colour, ly. But a law against colours? So IATA could also forbid colours from national flagg on planes.
And typical Swiss? Sorry, typical swiss is cheese, chocolate, friendly, peaceful unhurried people.
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:51 pm

Pink isn't what I'd chose, but that's up to Helvetic...

As to rules about colours and banning them, the only happening of that nature in the past that I can remember was Air UK:

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When they started out with their pretty much all blue livery (left, on a BAC 1-11) the UK CAA ordered them to change it because they considered all-blue to lack conspicuity. So Air UK introduced the white tail and made more of the white fuselage top (right, on an F-27).

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:00 pm

@Skymonster: I think helvetic needn't fear lack conspicuity  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:04 pm

Reminds me of the LX burger plane from a couple of years back  Laugh out loud
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:09 pm

@UTA - question is then if it's more dangerous to fly with the Burger-LX plane cause of lack conspicuity or eating one of these M-burgers.
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:27 pm

ly334: But this is tipical for the Swiss to use such colours.

I guess, somebody here has big problems with the Swiss  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:32 pm

...don't know how they can call themselves a "low fare" airline. They're selling ZRH-VIE for around 120 Euros one way. I can buy on-line with Austrian Airlines for just 169CHF or 200CHF return!

Am I missing something? Or am I just paying for the "color"!?

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:32 pm

@Gerardo: You care about that?
Maybe LY thought the colours from plane are like Milka-chocolate-paper. And chocolate - swiss = same = typical swiss-colour.
Or maybe swiss-flagg is a pink cow?
So helvetic.com hasn't the national-flagg-tail as other airlines (not only in switzerland) have  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:12 am

I am not overly confident about them, fares on most routes are higher than Swiss. Perhaps an easyJet/Ryanair variable fare policy would be a better idea.

Had they launched before "SWISS in Europe", they would certainly have a better chance.

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:03 am

In the airline business there are so many plans which fail. I only believe in them when they fly with their ugly colors. Actually I don't care about livery when they offer a good product. But, like Teahan said, they seem to be more expensive than the best Swiss or AUA fares to VIE. Helvetic sells on way for ? 99, this means ? 198 for a return ticket plus about ? 53 for taxes, total: ? 251, that's app CHF 377.
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:40 am


Hi!

Taking in mind how "white" the airlines are using in their latest liveries seeing an airplane painted the way ( hopefully ) Helvetic will do it's almost like a nice fresh breeze in our airports. Definitely it will be WELL NOTED!!!
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Fri Sep 26, 2003 5:04 am

There's one thing, which makes me rather confident about them. True, LX offer lower prices to many of their destinations, but not on a constant basis. Try to get a flight to one of those destinations for the next few days.

BTW, according to their website, ZRH-VIE is € 99.- not € 120.-

But at the end, I agree with ZRH: I believe it, when I see it.

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Fri Sep 26, 2003 5:41 am

Also, Helvetic flies to the business centers only when demand is high, in the morning and in the evening, while they fill the planes with charter passengers in the afternoon.

That's a big advantage against SWISS.

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Fri Sep 26, 2003 5:50 am

Gerardo you are right, it is € 99 as I said (but the Euro sign wasn't posted). But this is without taxes, with taxes € 120 could be right.

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:33 am

My recommendation: get pics of it as soon as you can!
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Fri Sep 26, 2003 7:45 am

They will also fly to Brussels twice daily.

Looking at their schedule, they start with 2 aircraft. They run the business routes morning and evening (Brussels and Vienna) and the leisure routes in between.
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:10 am

As they say on their homepage, they offer you every 11th flight. Not bad...
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:22 am

nice definitly something other than an ambulance jet  Wink/being sarcastic
and my opinion regarding swiss is a open secret
btw. it's Barbies plane  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: New Swiss Airline

Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:12 pm

As I already sai on Luchtzak.be, you should take your sunglasses when spotting it. These colours ar eso bright, this can't be healthy for your eyes :-p
 
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:24 pm

That is one horrific C/S, "I'm a barbie girl.. In a barbie world!!!" Even the wings are pink  Wow!
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RE: New Swiss Airline

Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:31 pm

One of their directors is Thomas Frischknecht?
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