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Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:10 am

Let us say that a bunch of countries wanted a single carrier, if it has not already been done, are there benefits?
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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:15 am

Yes, Look at SAS. Norway, Denmark and Sweden all in one air carrier.

 
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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:18 am

I believe SAS is owned by/represents several Scandinavian governments, and as a multinational carrier they have always done fairly well, considering they are one of the oldest airlines still in operation today. They hit some tough times recently, but seem to be on the upswing at this point. In addition, I think there are several multinational carriers in the Pacific (Polynesian?) as well as Grupo TACA, if you consider them as a single entity. I think consolidation across national borders is the trend of the future, and it is already beginning to develop in Europe, probably the ideal proving ground for such an experiment.
 
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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:19 am

Air Afrique is an other example but I think they don't exist any longer.

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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:39 am

There have been other multi-national carriers in the past that are no longer operating for either financial or other reasons.

Air Afrique was a carrier representing 11 African nations: Benin, Burkina Faso, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo, Cote d'Ivoire, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Senegal, and Togo. Created in 1961, they were liquidated in early 2002 after years of financial mismanagement.

A new carrier, AfricaOne, was recently created to fill the void left by Air Afrique.

MSA (Malaysia Singapore Airlines) was another airline of the past that was created to serve both (duh) Malaysia and Singapore.

Can't think of any others.

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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:14 am

Well, if you count the LAN group as one airline, you have LAN Chile, LAN Peru, LAN Ecuador, and LAN Dominicana. Gulf Air is the national carrier for 3 of the arab countries, but I cant remember which ones.

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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:25 am

Northwest, though primarily a US carrier, operates a hub at Tokyo Narita and flies A320s to Asian destinations-seems to me rather unusual. I presume they are competing with the Japanese airlines.

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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:42 am

Well, if you count the LAN group as one airline, you have LAN Chile, LAN Peru, LAN Ecuador, and LAN Dominicana.

Could the same be said for Grupo Taca, or is that just a Latin American alliance like SkyTeam?

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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:15 am

Another truly multinational airlines was East African Airways (EAA), jointly owned by Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda. The venture collapsed toward the end of 1976. EAA was among the few airlines to operate the Vickers/BAC VC-10; for shorter and regional flights, EAA had DC-9-30s and F-27s. By 1977, the goverment of Kenya had formed Kenya Airways to fill the void left by the failed EAA on the NBO-LHR longhaul route as well regional and domestic routes.
 
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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:14 pm

Varig Brasilian Airlines has recently taken over Pluna Airlines of Uruguay.

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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:47 pm

Gulf Air is the joint flag carrier of the UAE, Bahrain, and Oman.
 
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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:02 pm

yes.... why not?
chilean LAN group (LAN CHILE, LAN PERU, LAN ECUADOR, LAN DOMINICANA, and very soon LAN ARGENTINA) its an example, like Scandinavian Air System, SAS, or central american TACA group as well.....
 
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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:47 pm

Actually, Lan's case is different. LanChile has created its subsidiaries. SAS and TACA were created by the union of a group of airlines.


By the way, Kavanagh...are you sure about LanArgentina? What have you read or listened about it? Will they create a new airline or are they going to buy an existing airline?
 
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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:02 am

hey lan_fanatic, the idea of Lan Argentina is old. Just remember Aerolineas Argentinas last crisis (2001), when many people in the industry talk about Lan would take over Aerolineas/Austral. Anyway, what i read was than LanChile will be a leading partner of argentinean goverment in the creation of a new airline, LAFA (lineas aereas federales argentinas or something like that). This new airline try to save both, LAPA and Southern Wind. nothing official yet, but certainly a real chance.
 
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RE: Do/Can Multi-national Airlines Exist?

Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:19 am

The same thing for VASP and LAB. And I am pretty sure thre's a third comapny, but unable at this moment to remember it.


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SAS Scandanavian

Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:22 am

is one example of a multi-national carrier. sweden, norway and finland i believe.
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