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JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:11 pm

jetblue will start January 16 from Boston to Denver, FLL, TPA & MCO

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:28 pm

JetBlue Plans Boston Premiere of New Planes, More Legroom, Low Fares and 24 Channels of Free Inflight Satellite TV
Tuesday September 30, 7:45 am ET
-- Low-fare Carrier Will Serve Fort Lauderdale, Tampa, Orlando, FL and Denver, CO from Logan International Airport Starting January 2004 --


NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 30, 2003-- JetBlue Airways (NASDAQ: JBLU - News) is about to introduce Boston travelers to a different kind of low-fare airline -- with new planes, up to 24 channels of DIRECTV programming free at every comfy leather seat, and more legroom than other airlines -- when the carrier inaugurates service from Boston's Logan International Airport to Fort Lauderdale, Orlando and Tampa, FL and Denver, CO, in the new year.
By January 16, JetBlue plans to offer from Logan International three daily flights to Orlando, two daily flights to Tampa, and one daily flight each to Fort Lauderdale and Denver. Specifically, the airline will launch daily service to Orlando, Tampa and Denver starting January 7, with service to Orlando and Tampa expanding to twice daily on January 8. Starting January 16, JetBlue will increase its service between Boston and Orlando to three times daily and add a new daily flight between Boston and Fort Lauderdale.

JetBlue is offering an introductory sale fare between Boston and all three Florida cities of $79 (a) each way and between Boston and Denver of $99 (a) each way, when booked at JetBlue's website, www.jetblue.com. Sale fares require a seven-day advance purchase and are valid for travel through February 10, 2004. For an additional $5 each way, these sale fares can also be booked by calling 1-800-JETBLUE. Seats are limited and customers are encouraged to book early.

The airline's regular fares between Boston and Florida will range from $94 (a) to $224 (a) each way and between Boston and Denver from $115 (a) to $244 (a) each way if booked via www.jetblue.com. For an additional $5 each way, these regular fares can also be booked by calling 1-800-JETBLUE.

"Low fare doesn't have to be no-frills anymore," said David Neeleman, CEO of JetBlue Airways. "In the new year, JetBlue will liberate Bostonians from high fares and offer a unique travel experience with new planes with 34 inch seat pitch for most seats, free inflight satellite TV, and award-winning friendly service. We don't charge for snacks either - and you can have as many as you like."

"I welcome JetBlue to Boston and congratulate them on their decision to expand their first-rate service to Logan Airport," said Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts. "JetBlue's entry into Boston means more local jobs, more economic activity for our state and more low-fare flying choices for Bay Staters."

"It is a special pleasure for Massport to welcome JetBlue, an airline that has made innovation, outstanding customer service and high value for the customer dollar their core principles," said Massport CEO Craig Coy. "JetBlue is a perfect fit for Logan Airport and will provide local travelers with more choices, more low-fares and more reason to choose Logan for their travel plans."

JetBlue's flight schedules will be:

Boston (BOS) to Orlando (CO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO) Orlando to Boston
Depart Arrive Depart Arrive
6:45am 10:05am (eff. 1/8/04) 7:45am 10:40am (eff. 1/16/04)
2:25pm 5:45pm 10:45am 1:40pm (eff. 1/8/04)
7:40pm 11:00pm (eff. 1/16/04) 5:25pm 8:20pm

Boston (BOS) to Tampa (TPA) Tampa to Boston
Depart Arrive Depart Arrive
7:00am 10:30am (eff. 1/8/04) 11:10am 2:10pm (eff. 1/8/04)
2:50pm 6:20pm 7:00pm 10:00pm

Boston (BOS) to Denver (DEN) Denver to Boston
Depart Arrive Depart Arrive
9:40pm 12:15am 11:55pm 5:35am (next day)


(Effective 1/16/04)
Boston (BOS) to Ft Lauderdale (FLL) Ft Lauderdale to Boston
Depart Arrive Depart Arrive
11:20am 3:00pm 3:40pm 7:00pm

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:33 pm

PHENOMENAL.

On an operational level, I have heard that jetBlue will use former one or two former NWA gates at Terminal E (Massport re-negociated the ownership of the gates with NWA). This surprises me as Terminal E isn't quite yet done with all of its renovations and Mr. Neeleman is quite picky about the resources available (or NOT available) from the airports (a la Southwest) ...
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:41 pm

I think BOS will be good for JetBlue and great for the city of Boston.
No more driving to Providence for cheap fares!!!  Smile
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:41 am

I've always found decent fares out of Boston for the routes that I need, but this is still great news.
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:42 am

Wouldnt be surprised to see other leisure cities (LAS, MSY, SJU come to mind) in the near future from BOS.... AA must be sh!tting on themselves  Big grin
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:52 am

I wouldn't be surprised if, all of a sudden, BOS becomes a Song destination.

Too bad their on-board TVs are still several months away....
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:55 am

Boston IS a Song destination...nonstops to Florida and Las Vegas.


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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:55 am

I guess Neeleman decided to 'let bygones be bygones' in selecting BOS. Logan once gave JetBlue the cold shoulder but of course did an about-face after JetBlue's fortunes started going up while Logan's started going down. I think we (MHT) will see JetBlue up here at some point. Those RJs will have to be used somewhere.

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:01 am

Song's first IFE equipped a/c to roll out is ship #647 and should be in service by Oct 18/19. The rest of the fleet to be completed by Mar 2004.
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:01 am

BOS is already a Song destination.
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:01 am

Good for Jetblue! I would have like to have seen MHT (my hometown, I'm biased) but BOS is a great choice...head to head with Airtran!
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:06 am

Thanks for the correction, Steve. I guess I should have checked out Song's schedule before making a statement like that!  Smile I am sure about the lack of TVs on board though... maybe they make up for it with their great color scheme (sarcasm) and friendly service!

As for Chris, as I understand it, JetBlue's Embraer planes are NOT RJs. They are basically mainline jets and other members of the 170/190/195 family will be treated the same way by other airlines that use them. From what I have heard from JetBlue about the 190, it will have more room per seat than the current A320 fleet does! Still, I agree with you, MHT will probably make a better EMB 190 market than it does an A320 market due to the 50 or so less seats. MHT - Florida? Let's hope for 2005 or 2006.
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:27 am

Logan once gave JetBlue the cold shoulder but of course did an about-face after JetBlue's fortunes started going up while Logan's started going down.

I'd like to hear more about this cold shoulder stuff.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

By the way, why hasn't Airtran ever had these routes BOS-TPA,MCO,FLL,MIA
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:40 am

any reason why JB chose DEN to serve from BOS. I understand FLL, MCO, and TPA but DEN?
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:44 am

DEN-BOS probably because the fares are pretty high now.

F9 doesn't fly that route anymore.

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:50 am

Also, DEN-BOS is a redeye. It no doubt increases net a/c utilization.

This is the first time that JetBlue has specifically chosen to enter a Song destination, on Song-city pairs, *after* Song is already there. Neeleman must be very confident about JetBlue's ability to compete with the Key Lime Vomit Comet in new as well as existing markets.

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:56 am

Do you think BOS will be expanded further to the true west coast, as in maybe LGB or OAK???

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:06 am

The 'cold shoulder' stuff (of course) occured pre-9/11 when Logan and the Boston area in general were hitting on all cylinders. JetBlue courted Logan at a time when Logan's gates were full and JetBlue wasn't the Wall Street darling they are now. Massport's response to this courting: 'Worcester's the place you oughta be...Goodbye.' Of course, Worcester is also run by Massport, and Massport certainly felt as though they could dictate to the carriers: 'Now, you can fly to Logan, but this other flight has to go to Worcester.' Worcester has no airline service anymore, so you can see how successful THAT effort was. Somewhere along the line, Massport 'got religeon' and discovered that the New England airline world didn't revolve around them. Good thing. Now let's see how JetBlue and Song do head-to-head on the Florida routes. Barely a year ago only 737-200s flew these routes. Now it'll be 757s and A320s. Good luck to 'em both.

 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:07 am

Wonder why no BOS-JFK?
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:39 am

do you thnik that BOS might become a west coast-Florida bypass. this could help New York out a little
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:58 am

Wonder why no BOS-JFK?

Same reason there is no IAD-JFK or ATL-JFK.

do you thnik that BOS might become a west coast-Florida bypass. this could help New York out a little

I doubt it. FLL already has LGB and will soon have OAK. And don't look for BOS-LGB/OAK in the near future. BOS-PBI/RSW are likely, IMO.
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:01 am

ChrisNH, the story wasn't exactly like that. The real reason as mention by JetBlue CEO in an Q&A interview to the Boston Globe about 2 months ago, was the high fees in Boston, and lack of facilities. Like most other major airports, BOS charges high fees, higher than JetBlue was willing to pay. And in a time when air travel was really good, and BOS was overcrowded (and losing an entire terminal - A), there was no reason to drop fees. Now things are different. There is room for traffic increase, and I suspect Massport is willing to negotiate those fees. It's strictly the basic principle of supply and demand at work.

In the same interview, he also said that he sees JetBlue serve both MHT and BOS very soon, and that one had nothing to do with the other. So, maybe they're just waiting for those new gates at MHT  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:03 am

from an inside source:
to be served in the future from BOS:
LAS
LGB
SJU


also expect ORD to be announced before years' end (not with BOS service)
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:23 am


Is AirTran still in that dungeon area in Terminal D at BOS?



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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:06 am

Who gets the old DL gates after they move to "A"? And when is that?
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:10 am

it is very good news for jetBlue for more new nonstop from BOS to FLL, MCO, TPA & DEN. Those are very wonderful news for jetBlue and can you says "Go JetBlue Go!" Well, talk ya later!  Smile
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:51 am

Clrd2go- yes, they are indeed. That terminal is horrid.

Glad to have another airline out of BOS (especially this one!).. The ever increasing options out of there make it even more convenient for me!
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:19 am

I wouldn't be surprised to see Song launch a full-court attack on JetBlue within the next 24 hours. I foresee BOS-CO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO going up to at least 6 (most likely 7-8) 757s a day, up from 3. I also see TPA and FLL each gaining a couple of new flights to bump their frequencies up to 5. Delta is not going to let JetBlue touch these routes though...this is exactly what Song was cut out for...I wonder if Delta will retalliate on any other routes, maybe add a few more frequencies out of NYC??? Anyway, good luck to Delta on the situation...I'll make sure I keep away from B6 now even more.

As for Terminal A, it opens in 2005. Right now, it will be Delta and partners. However, with NW and CO now in the fold, I don't think there will be enough room. As it stands, there are going to be about 6-8 Connection gates, 3-4 Shuttle gates, 2 Express gates (this was back in the DLX days, could have changed), and 10 mainline gates. If you figure Song will now need about 4 gates since DL will bump up frequencies to about 20 flights a day, you are left with only 8 gates for mainline flights, which is the amount mainline has right now. I foresee Terminal A becoming strictly Delta, and Continental (they already have 4 gates on the DL pier, will probably pick up a fifth, since they are up to about 35 daily flights), Northwest (having 3 gates), and others taking up the rest of the concourse and making it a SkyTeam satellite concourse. A few other carriers might move in there, but it will be pretty full, with Air France, Alitalia, Aeromexico (rumour is that BOS will be one of the first 73G destinations), Air Jamaica, Swiss, and Cape Air taking up the rest of the space. That leaves E1-E2 open (most likely going to be B6), as well as C41-C42 (probably a new AirTran home). Anyway, limited space will open up, but not for another 20 months (I'll get an update soon...will be talking to a Massport exec soon).

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:25 am

ConcordeBoy "
ConcordeBoy claims "Wouldnt be surprised to see other leisure cities (LAS, MSY, SJU come to mind) in the near future from BOS.... AA must be sh!tting on themselves."

I don't think AA is the target of this foray. Plus, AA has done a very good job of shoring up its fortunes at Boston with all of the Eagle service.

No, I think the target is United. All of a sudden, Boston/Denver becomes a low cost route for them if, that is, they chose to compete with JetBlue . I am sure when the braintrust at United drew up the route map for their new LCO they never imagined having to add Boston to that route map. Thanks to JetBlue, they will have no choice. Kind of funny when you think of it. The LCO is not even up and running, but as of today it is already on the defensive.

Remember, UA was always the odd man out at Boston. AmericaWest's decision to initiate service from LAX to BOS certainly didn't help them any. Now this. It's clear that JetBlue can coexist with AA, but they've taken quite a dislike for United lately.
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:31 am

I would not look for Boston-California flights anytime soon. As popular as they would be, the major issue is range. jetBlue's A320s are not equipped with extended range fuel tanks, and thier JFK-California routes are already stretching the planes legs. That is one of the handful of reasons they are removing a row of seats from thier A320s.
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:23 am

Not exactly anytime soon with these flight from BOS-LGB/OAK for the future. You'll will see about that one. Maybe depending with the load factors is doing with AA or UA and HP. It would make competitionof those 3 airlines.
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:40 am

Clrd2go- Yes Airtran is still in the dungeon terminal.  Smile Everytime I fly Airtran into there I hate it. It's like being in a prison. Oh well...it's worth it for the amount you pay on Airtran.

JetBlue will be good for Boston in my opinion. I'm happy to see them there. But I don't benefit from them being there. They don't go to where I need to go.
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:48 am

What about LGB? I think they should start it.
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:50 am

Interesting notes on the BOS-DEN service: comparing B6 fares from BOS to DEN to UA fares on the same route (BOS-DEN 1/7/04, DEN-BOS 1/14/04), B6 charges 205.50 on that route, whereas UA charges 476.50 for the same itinerary...I guess BOS residents will be lining up to buy tickets on UA, huh? Big grin
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:09 am

I personally would choose Song over Jetblue, regardless of color choice......At least Song (Delta) keeps pax info SECRET

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:13 am

The TSA wants all airlines to give out the same information.
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:22 am

Is AirTran's ticket counter in a shabby area? OH YES. Is the gate area crappy? It could be better - but it's clean, bright, and has a great view of the alley between the Northwest and United gates.

HOWEVER.

There is no better gate/ticket counter area to be had at Logan with regard to proximaty. Hell, AirTran could've moved to other areas in the terminals, and declined. Why?

You walk in the door, there's the AirTran ticket counter, the AirTran baggage carousel, and the AirTran baggage service office. You go through the AirTran security checkpoint (right next to the ticket counter), up one escalator (security literally dumps you on to the escalator), and you're in the gate area. There is no walking, no searching, no hunting. It's a lazy man's delight. More importantly, it's a business man's delight. In and out.

This morning I worked flight 450 BWI-BOS. There were 12 full-fare business class passengers aboard, and the remainder of the FULL coach cabin was filled with ties and briefcases. AirTran is very happy with it's Boston digs, thank you very much. Leave the shiny, flashy terminals to the airlines losing millions of dollars......

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:16 pm

This morning I worked flight 450 BWI-BOS

I thought you worked in ATL?  Confused

And MAH546, you didn't exactly answer my question.
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:23 pm

I'll make sure I keep away from B6 now even more

Care to elaborate DeltAirlines?  Insane
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:18 pm

Delta is not going to let JetBlue touch these routes though...this is exactly what Song was cut out for...I wonder if Delta will retalliate on any other routes, maybe add a few more frequencies out of NYC??? Anyway, good luck to Delta on the situation...I'll make sure I keep away from B6 now even more.

Like they didn't let JetBlue touch New York-Florida? JetBlue has no doubt researched the market carefully. They'll probably do fine, and due to the density of the market, both carriers will likely fill their planes at profitable yields. And if Delta does suddenly double capacity on the routes, that would be predatory and DOJ should come down on them with both feet. Not of course that JetBlue would ask, they're too busy making money to complain, but DOJ should watch anyway. Good luck to JetBlue in bringing more low fares and excellent service to even more fliers!

I'll happily fly JetBlue as soon as they launch one of my city-pairs from the DC area, and look forward to the opportunity.

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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:37 pm

So B6 is going to fly out of Terminal E for now...Now when Terminal A opens and Delta leaves their C gates, who will get those open gates?...It would make sence to me to see B6, FL and NW use those, and maybe see a return of Frontier????...That would leave Terminal E just for the internationals and give massport time to clean up/renovate D.... or is that not in their modernization plan?

Also, straying off topic a little, does anyone know if the new Terminal A will have customs, or will the DL international, AF , Air Jamica leave Terminal A and have to arrive at Terminal E like they do now?...and with the sky team partners going out of terminal will we see any new internationals come into BOS?....thanks for the info
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:14 pm

I think this becomes very interesting for MHT and PVD. Right now PVD does not really have the facitlities for any new stand-alone carrier to start new service. Without knowing MHT's situationand with new no service announcement as of yet from BOS to JFK, it leads me to think that jetBlue will do long-haul from BOS and maybe add E190s from JFK to the other two regional airports at a future date.

I know at PVD, there is substantially less NYC traffic since AE decided to pull out. We only have CO and Colgan offering service to the area with nobody picking up AE's slack in capacity. This would make perfect sense with a smaller plane on a cost-basis than a 1 class A320. Remember, WN could not justify running 73Gs to ISP on a cost-basis due to the length of the flight. They pulled the flight even though they were successful from a passenger standpoint.

As far as to what Song will do, It will depend on how much Delta will invest in trying to maintain their market presence without getting bloodied in the battle. I do not know whether they are taking passengers from jetBlue in NYC, but it seems that jetBlue is unaffected by the competition. Maybe if they start to lose the battle, they could very well shift Song's operations to MHT, PVD, or both and add to BDL's flights...................
 
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RE: JetBlue To Start Boston Nonstop In January

Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:23 pm

O yes, Airtran's terminal is so nice because of how close together it is. It's just a little run down. You say it's a lazy man's delight or even business man's delight... But it's not a aviation enthusiasts delight.  Smile Because you don't get the full effect of a day of flying!

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