futureualpilot
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End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:16 am

I saw on TV today an ex-Continental 742 being chopped up at a boneyard for airliners, and it actually was hard to watch. Ive seen many of thse airliners siutting their collecting dust, withdrawn from use, and I personally hate it. I was just wondering what you think or feel when you see an old airliner(like an L-1011 or DC9, or classic 747) sitting in the desert or being chopped up?
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:26 am

Sounds corney, but I can't help but imagine what the plane is thinking. "Hey, what did I do wrong? I am still capable, I wanna work, why am I here." "Put me in coach! I am ready to play."

Planes to me are more than aluminum, glass, wire and cloth, but they have personalities and are like an old friend. You're always glad to see them. So when they are sent to the desert, it just does not seem fair.

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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:27 am

I watched "the claw" tear into XU-600, ex Kampuchea L10, this past Tuesday at TUS. It was indeed a bit sad. I've seen it hundreds of times yet still think of all the airports the airplane has been in.

But then I'm an old sentimental fool.
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:31 am

When I was a kid, I remember watching a scene in this movie, "The Brave Little Toaster", that portrayed cars going to the crusher at the junkyard. The anthropomorphized cars were lamenting their fate song, and singing of their rich, fulfilling lives that were coming to a close.

It was extremely upsetting to me and I never watched that movie again. Seeing an airliner (or a B-52 ... stupid SALT II) meeting the same fate arouses a lot of the same feelings. It seems like such a waste. It seems like someone, somewhere should have a use for a perfectly good jetliner. But then again, sentimentality has always been one of my weaknesses.
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:36 am

My friends thought I was crazy because I was upset when I found out that N10DC was going to be scrapped. Even more so hurt when it finally happened.. Tha bird should've been preserved!

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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:40 am

No doubt about it, it is an awful feeling to see shots of the boneyards and the rows upon rows of airliners lined up. I would certainly love to head over to Victorville and take one of the jets away to be refurbished.

Maybe one of our venerable L-1011s, if only I could afford to make it flyable again.
 
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:44 am

Good to nkow Im not the only one who might get choked up when I see a 742 get sliced up....its almost like you are betraying it.
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:51 am

The NYC transit authority is disposing of its fleet of "redbird" subway cars by dumping them into the Atlantic Ocean, where they'll act as artificial reefs for marine life. It would be nice if old airliners could be disposed of in a similar manner, though probably not practical.
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:55 am

I consider myself a fairly hard-nosed business person, but I agree with all of you...it's sad to see an airliner chopped up. It seems like a slaughter to me.

Nonetheless, I'd love to go to one of those graveyards with the many derelict and stored aircraft. Greenwood MS, Mojave, Victorville, Kingman AZ etc.

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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:25 pm

When I see that I always think that there has to be some one somewhere in the world that could put that plane to good use. I hate to see an airliner go.
 
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:03 pm

Yeah, YYZ171... I've often thought of taking a trip to visit one of the airliner storage facilities. Just drop me off with food rations and pick me up in about a week.

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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:43 pm

The saddest aircraft photo I've seen is the 41 section of Pan Am Flight 103 lying on it side in Lockerbie.
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:49 pm

They should set up a big park somewhere and keep 1 of every type of jetliner on display. They could have fully restored 737-100/200, DC-9, DC-10, DC-8, Convair 880/990 etc. sort of an aircraft museum, but all contained within the one location.
 
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:50 pm

N844AA,

"The Brave Little Toaster"...best movie when I was a kid! I did think of that on my last trip to Mojave..it's like each friend is being betrayed, like a lamb to the slaughter.

When they strip it for parts to keep others flying (like the B-52G's, etc), then it's a little more noble. But when it's to get metal for cans, not worrying about valuable parts, then that's a total shame.

A number of ex USN A-6E's were dumped off the coast of St Augustine, for the artificial reef program...might be a good idea for an airliner hulk, if all the good parts are off em.

My vote: there's pleanty of museums that need a ex Delta Tristar!  Smile

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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:54 pm

It was extremely upsetting to me and I never watched that movie again.

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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:29 pm

Every time I fly a NW DC-9 I wonder when it will see that day we all apparently dread. I was on a NW DC-10 just last week, HNL-MSP, and I wondered what would happen to this plane. It's fate will be determined on how fast those A330s roll off the assembly line I guess. Must be worse for the old McDonnell Douglas guys that built it.
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:45 pm

You wanna talk about sad, just look at my hometown airport. I remember taxiing out as a kid to SMF on our M80 seeing 3 741/742's lined up at the end of C and like 3 L10's lining the even C gates. But yes, it is indeed sad when airliners with alot of character are retired in favor of twin engine boring pieces of poo. I hate seeing those TW jumbos lying out in the desert, it just makes me think of STL's glory days.  Crying
 
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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:25 am

PROSA:
Some of them have become artificial reefs. Last December I took a submarine ride at Honolulu, and we saw two Mid Pacific Air YS-11s being used for that purpose. It was a sad sight indeed.

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RE: End Of An Airliners Life

Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:32 pm

Actually, a Bahamas Express 727-51 was used as an artificial reef:

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