pilotpip
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How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:21 pm

I don't mean, how many wish they were, or how many count flight sim.

I would like to know how many actually fly. I don't care on the rating, or if you only have flown a 150. Tell your stories.

As for me, I'm working on my multi-engine commmercial. I'm currently ASEL with an instrument rating. My ultimate goal is to fly for a nice corporate flight department or for a large freight operation (think Fed Ex). I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world!!  Smile
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KateAV8
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:56 pm

Hey Pilotpip, I'm finishing up my private & going for my commercial license...I'm planning to fly corporate jets. Ahhh, and you're right...I wouldn't trade it for anything either!

As for stories? Hmmm...my friends who work for commercial carriers actually have tons of funny stories - one friend of mine is an F/O for ASA...while they were taxiing to the runway one afternoon he was trying to make his Captain laugh by doing his most perfect Mama Klump (Nutty Professor) impersonations. (He sounds just like Eddie Murphy doing Mama Klump...kinda scary, LOL) All of a sudden the FA was right behind him in the cockpit, acting really nervous, and said "Hey uhhh, Matt, ummm, the pax in the back are a little amused, except they're all like, uhhh, really freaked about who's flying this plane."

Yep, of course he'd forgotten to turn off the PA after he did his announcement...

Good luck!  Smile
-Kate
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:50 pm

I've got my PPL with IFR rating...

Funny stories? Hmmm...flying out of KELN maybe. I was on final when another pilot in a Cessna 172 (I was in a warrior) pulled out in front of me and took off, then veered to the right and almost collided with me. Even after he heard me contact him on the radio....he had no idea that I was on final. It was a clear day too and any bird holding short would have seen me on final.
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JBirdAV8r
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:22 pm

Working on finishing up CFII and multi so I can instruct at my flight school  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
 
sushka
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:33 pm

I am an instrument rated PPL ASEL

I have about 19 hours left for my Commercial License. I will get it at the same time as my multi rating in a Cessna 310Q
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Dtw757
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:58 pm

This is my first time in the forum. I have been looking at this site for years and had been thinking about joining. Talked to a FA yesterday on a MSP-DTW NWA 757-300 flight who just joined as well so I decided to join too. Hello to SEANWAS.

I am ASEL with an instrument rating. Getting ready to work on my commercial and multi ratings. I have about 30 hours riding right seat in a KingAir 300. Great experience. I love flying and especially love commercial airliners. I would really like to do it for a career but who knows, we'll see.
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WMUPilot
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:04 pm

Working on my commercial instrument (IFR rating)
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CX Flyboy
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:12 pm

Got all my ATPL/CPLs etc... and flying 777s for Cathay.
 
AA717driver
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RE: As Time Goes By: Many 767s Bound For Scrapping

Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:35 pm

Ex-TWA DC9/717/MD80 Capt. Currently 757 FO at AA/TWA. Slated to be furloughed in Feb. Applying to AirTran, ATA, Emirates...

Don't let examples like mine scare you away from this business. I wouldn't trade my 17 years of experiences, stories and friends for ANYTHING. Some people are tempted to throw up their hands and leave the business during times like these. It would seriously shorten my lifespan if I weren't flying.

For those just starting, stop and smell the roses. Keep plugging away--you'll make it someday. But for now, try to savor the experiences during your "time-building struggles". I look back and some of the best memories were from the general aviation and commuter days when I didn't know if I would make it to "the big time".

Also, keep in mind, the "big time" is what you make it. There are lots of people who are very happy flying RJ's or Lears for a living and there are some very bitter and unhappy people in the left seat of 777's and 744's. I try not to gauge my happiness by my W-2.

Enjoy!TC
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schreiner
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:00 pm

I´m a glider pilot, since my 14th birthday. Flying since then. Mountainflying, aerobatics... done all in a glider. Few engine lessons taken, but I rather soar. Soaring is more "real" flying in my point of view.

Too bad that I can´t earn money with it.

Cheers,
Schreiner
Soaring the internet...
 
flyingbronco05
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:19 pm

Too many ratings and too many hours in too many planes.....  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Nuts
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boeingflying31
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:24 pm

I'm currently a solo pilot. I've been flying ever since I was 13 and I'm planning to get my PPL in 2 months(on my 17th b-day). I have about 160 hours of flying time.
-BF31
 
fspilot747
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:32 pm

Hundered and some hours (gotta add up the book) on a PPL ASEL. Going to be doing my instrument and commercial around the same time.

As for funny stories... hmm... I started flying in Michigan a few weeks ago (I just moved for school), and I almost died when I saw how much class G airspace there is here (I learned to fly in Los Angeles). It's like heaven!


FSP
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:35 pm

I am an ATP and CFI-II. I fly Gulfstreams for a major oil concern. I found airline flying wasn't my cup of tea, so I entered the Corporate Aviation field.

AA717Driver wrote:

Also, keep in mind, the "big time" is what you make it. There are lots of people who are very happy flying RJ's or Lears for a living and there are some very bitter and unhappy people in the left seat of 777's and 744's. I try not to gauge my happiness by my W-2.

You are absolutely correct! Better words were never spoken. I wouldn't change my job for the world! 99% of the time my passengers are happy as they run the show!
Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:47 pm

Commercial Multi-Instrument.... Also CFI,CFII,MEI. I'm a new hire for Pinnacle Airlines (Northwest Airlink). I start class for the CRJ Nov. 3- so will be able to add a CL-600 type rating to that certificate.  Smile Couldn't be happier now!


Long term goal- captain for a major carrier like NW or FedEx...but I'll be happy flying for a career. Always set your goals a little farther "up the ladder" from where you are...it's amazing what you can be blessed with.
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avroarrow
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:33 am

PPL with night rating, thinking of doing my instrument rating soon. I've flown/been checked out on C152, C172 and Piper Warrior. Hopefully I will soon add a C172RG and maybe a DA-20 to the list. Not exactly exciting I guess, but since I'm just doing this for fun for now I can't justify the $$$ to do any multi or commercial stuff. Maybe in time though.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RayBolt
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:39 am

PPL ASEL-got my license back home in New Jersey (right between EWR, PHL, and even BWI a little further down). Now I'm out at UND. Big difference flying in North Dakota than the New York area!! Will be working on instrument rating next semester. Will be in the left seat for a major in the (hopefully not too distant) future.
Dan
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boeingflying31
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:44 am

Type-Rated,

Just out of curiosity, how long did it take you to become a corporate pilot? What steps did you take when you first started flying until now, flying Gulfstreams? I'm hoping to become a corporate pilot after college, even though in only 16 right now. That sounds like a pretty coo job!
-BF31
 
goboeing
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:27 am

I'm a private pilot working on my instrument rating.

Nick
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:43 am

Boeingflying31:

I would be happy to tell you how I got to where I am today. I went to a University (La. Tech) where I got my Commercial-Instrument and CFI-II.
Then I flight instructed at some small schools across the country. Several of these had "charter on demand" services where I was able to build up my multi-time and I got rated on the King Air 100 and Queen Air. I also worked some aircraft ferry jobs. I then was hired by a company flying Lear 35's and I stayed there two years until I got picked up by a major regional airline flying CV-580's. Here is where I found out that I didn't like line flying and a freind told me about an opportunity to fly for an oil company. I contacted the Chief Pilot, had an interview and here I am today some 20 years later.
I like the corporate world of aviation. Most of the time it's almost like a desk job, regular hours. Plus you usually have your holidays to yourself. But it can also be like being on a permanent reserve board. It all depends on what industry that the company that employs you is involved with. Also, there is a lot of wait time involved. Waiting for clients to return from meetings, etc.
Good luck to you with your training future. It probably took me 6 years from PPL to ATP and another 8 years to land "the big one"!
Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:46 am

I have my PPL-SEL. I wish I could fly more often.
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:51 am

AA717Driver - how come you're a First Officer? Did your command at TWA mean nothing to AA?
 
USAFHummer
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:01 am

I have my PPL as well...about 90 hours total...would love to go into corporate aviation in the future....

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captaingomes
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:09 am

I am still working on my PPL, have just over 60 hours, and have been at it part-time for about 2 years now. Once I'm done university in April, I plan on going full speed ahead towards my IFR, CPL and all the fun ratings that come along the way.

Ideally, I'd like to fly for a prosperous Air Canada in the future, or also the corporate world. Both avenues look mighty interesting.

On a related story to what Kate gave us, a pilot I know who flies for Jetsgo was pushing back from the gate at YYZ. He was in contact with the ground controller, and right after, made his announcement in english and a very broken french for the passengers. Unfortunately, he was still transmitting to the ground frequency though!

Lots more stories to tell, and I hope to read others too.
"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:12 am

PPL  Smile
Starting my instrument rating soon with a dash of some ATC.

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Bruce
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:20 am

AA717driver,

Emirates? Is it hard for a U.S. citizen to go work for a foreign airline? sorry to hear about the furlough but hey...at least they are giving you some "heads up" and you have a few months! With all your exp. would you ever consider flying 73's for WN? just curious...


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mrcf
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:31 am


I'm FO on a GII, about to go Capt on a CE-500 for a charter company in LA. My route was a little different. Although I got my PPL in 1981 I worked for numerous computer companies while accumulating time and ratings.

Eventually got my CE500 type and started flying charter, giving up the computer career to follow my love of flying. I haven't regretted it yet.

 
Inbound
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:39 am

Commercial Multi-IR rated.

waiting for things to turn around in the Caribbean so I can get onto a Dash8.
Would like to retire on a Jet, but I love the idea of frequent take off and landings, so interested in regionals for the long haul.
Maintain own separation with terrain!
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:42 am

AA717driver,

I'm glad to hear you're letting Emirates Airline be an option. I wish you luck, and hope to hear about how it goes!

EmiratesA345 Smile/happy/getting dizzy
You and I were meant to fly, Air Canada!
 
cancidas
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:44 am

one more here. i won't say what i have, someone might get overly jealous. Big grin
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YWG
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:52 am

Glider pilot working on multiple power ratings.

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Have fun flying
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:59 am

PP-ASEL, IA.
(Private Pilot- Airplane Single Engine- Land & Instrument Airplane).

Flying keeps me sane (to the extent I can be accused of having any sanity). And it is fun.
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ftrguy
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots

Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:04 am

Navy Pilot about to get my wings in about a month. Will go to the carrier for the first time in 2 weeks!!!
 
Rick767
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:38 am

Going on for 3,500 hours ATPL, 4 years as an F/o on the 757/767 presently training for the 737 (-300 and NG).
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
 
atpcliff
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:49 am

Hi!

I currently fly for a US freight/pax charter airline.

I'm an FO on a Falcon 20, moving to FO on the DC-9. We operate all over N. America, and sometimes beyond. We fly high-priority cargo and pax charter (with the -9s). We just bought our 2nd pax -9 from Midwest AIrlines (formerly Midwest Express).

CLiff
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undies737
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:16 am

Hi All,

6 hr in logbook on PA28.
glider pilot up to solo, but not X country yet.

15+ unofficial hrs, in (CAE built) C130H, B707, C130J simulators combined, mostly the "J model Herc" as im most familiar with it's flight deck (maintenance can have it's advantage if you know a check/training captain  Smile ).

After flying real sims, I rarely play on my PC sim, they are far from "as real as it gets".

Re-doing senior high school (yr11&12), so I become eligible for pilot application with the military.

Option#2, apply for QF pilot cadet scheme or through a University.

My ultimate aim is to fly any pressurised, turbine, ice prtected, IFR capable equipment.
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:22 am

I am an Instrument-Rated Private Pilot. Currently I am working on my Commercial. Man, those 172RG's are fun to fly! Anyways, as far as a career goes, I'd like to fly for AA or QF. But hey I won't decline other airlines! I agree with all that say that they wouldn't trade flying for anything.  Smile

TW
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flyf15
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:39 am

Commercial (ASEL, AMEL, IA), Ground Instructor (Adv, Inst), and soon CFI (ASE). Around 325 hours...
 
pilottim747
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:42 am

I currently have 12.4 hours I've gotten up at the University of North Dakota in a Piper Warrior. Working towards my PPL, which I should have by the end of the semester.

pilottim747
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pilotpip
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:48 am

Hey AA717driver,

I work at STL and have crossed paths with tons of former TW pilots. I hope things go well for you in the future. I heard that AirTran and ATA are hiring again and most of the regionals are too. To be honest, the whole TWA buyout destroyed my dream of flying for TWA, and for the majors in general.

For all of you looking for work with low time. Jobs are out there. My flight school just lost a few instructors to 135 operators and a couple regionals. Consequently, they hired some new CFIIs. It's coming back around again!



DMI
 
fly727
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:09 am

Us licenses: PPL ASEL, IR, AGI (I'll go back later this year and get the commercial ticket also).
Mexican Licenses: Commercial, ME, RTAR, FE B727, FO C208.

RM  Smile
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FutureFO
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:13 am

Rated all the wat up to Comm ME. with full IFR and sitting a little over 6300 hrs TT and 3100 hrs ME. Waiting and interviewing currently trying to get hired.



Sean from MCO
I Don't know where I am anymore
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:30 am

Aww heck...

CFI-ASE, Commerical ASEL, and Instrument Airplane. Almost done with with the CFII. I've actually never set foot in a piston-multi, although I have an hour of loggable 737-200 time. After I'm done with the CFII, I'm going to proceed with the the multi-engine and the MEI. I'd also love to get my taildragger sign-off sometime, and perhaps do some aerobatics. Plus, I'm pondering over a masters degree at Purdue where you can get your A&P. That might be fun also.

Let's see, what types of aircraft do I have time in... Well, 737-200, Piper PA18 Super Cub, Cessna 152, Cessna 172 (new and old), Diamond Katana Evolution, Piper Warrior, Piper Archer, Piper Arrow (II and III), Piper Cherokee 140 (loved that airplane!), and Mooney M20B.

What would I like to do with all this? Well, I have a profound desire to contribute to aviation and aerospace in whatever way I can. I want to leave something behind that will benefit others, just as others have left things behind to benefit me. So perhaps I will spend some time doing some professional flying, and get some type ratings. And then maybe I'd like to get into the education end of things, such as working in academia or a training environment like FlightSafety or SimCom or Simuflight. Maybe I'll be a type-rating examiner or something. Or maybe something in aircraft manufacturing. Who knows. I'm trying to leave things flexible.

Anyway, thanks for your responses to this thread. They've been intersting to read.

-Normal

P.S. GO BOSOX!

[Edited 2003-10-07 01:34:17]
 
futureualpilot
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:47 am

Count me in! Ive got my solo rating, going for my ppl next month
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:02 am

I'm a bizjet pilot and wouldn't go back to the airlines for anything.

I've got the following ratings:
ATP - Airplane Multiengine Land, Lear Jet, IA-1125, G100, Galaxy, & G200 type ratings
Commercial - Airplane Single Engine Land & Glider
Certified Flight Instructor - Single & Multiengine Airplanes, Instruments, & Gliders

I looked through my log books and I have PIC time in over 80 different makes and models of aircraft

Jetguy
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:26 am

LOL. In the presence of 757, 777, and corporate jet guys I feel very humbled, but, LOL, here goes. I ride around in a Diamond DA-20 like this one:


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On my way to ATP. FedEx here I come!!!

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[Edited 2003-10-07 03:33:59]
 
JAL777
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:34 am

Studen pilot here... with a whopping 1.7 hours.  Wow!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Laugh out loud
 
mjzair
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:36 am

I am an FAA CPL/IR holder working on my JAA ATPL.. have 4 exams left, and I will be an ATP
 
pilotpip
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:42 pm

"Student pilot here... with a whopping 1.7 hours"

We were all there at one time buddy, welcome to the club! Hope you enjoy it. I'm enjoying this thread as well guys and gals. Keep the bios coming regardless of if it burns Jet-A, 100LL, or nothing at all!

Bump!

DMI
 
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RE: How Many Here Are Pilots?

Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:52 pm

I have a piece of paper somewher in my filing cabinet that says the FAA has licensed me. I got a commercial, a multi-engine and a couple type ratings. Am I a pilot though? No, I am not. I grounded myself 12 years ago when I admitted, to myself, that I'm not born to fly and frankly, not talented enough.

No big deal, I had my fun. I just chose not to kill others for my own ego.

To those with real desire and talent, go for it with all you have. For those like me, admit it and quit while ahead.
The day you stop learning is the day you should die.

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