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Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:05 am

Ill be flying a NW DC-10 soon and i was just wondering if anyone can tell me what their DC-10's are like? I assume that they are in good running condition, NW seems to do a good job of maintaining their aircraft, but what are they like otherwise for comfort, feel and overall experience?
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:07 am

I flew an NW DC-10 about three years ago, and it was quite comfortable for the LAX-DTW leg I was on. But then again, I had bulkhead. Of course, don't expect PTVs or cool seats with winged headrests. It's a great plane but it's time to move on to the 330s.
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:13 am

A DC10 flight is a good flight. I had no problems with it. The flight I was on, Detroit Amsterdam with NWA and Amsterdam-Bonaire with KLM were great.
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:53 am

If you're concerned about the safety of them. I can assure you, that they are very safe and in very good shape considering the age. In the beginning of 2001, NW spent a few million dollars tothe interior of the aircraft, mainly updates to the galleys and cabin dividers for WBC. There are no PTV's in coach, just movies. I'm a DTW-based FA for NW, and normally fly Europe trips, mostly on the 10 and lately, the A330.
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:54 am

I've flown Northwest DC-10's quite a few times. Consider yourself lucky to be flying one and enjoy it while you can. I traveled through MSP to DTW on Sunday and was looking at all the DC-10's thinking about this. It will be a sad day when the last one is replaced by the 330 and it departs (most likely) for the scrap yard.

As far as the comfort and experience of them. I don't know if you have ever traveled on one, but I've found little difference in them between the airlines other than the color of the seats. I remember traveling on a UAL 777 and connecting to a UAL DC-10. It seemed like I had double the legroom on the 10.

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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:58 am

I flew IAD-AMS on a NW DC-10 in March of 2002. It was a nice flight but make sure to get seat A,B or H,J I prefer B or H because you get the aisle and are still close to the window. Meal service was alright but there was free booze so the time flew by. FA's were friendly and laughed at my friend and I for getting so wasted on arrival into Amsterdam.
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:04 am

I flew HNLMSP, coach, last week on NW's DC-10. Very nice interior and great ride. As far as seating, nothing spectacular in the back. I flew MKEMSP on a DC-10 a year ago, WBC, and I must say the one I was on last week was much nicer, interior seemed more up-to-date, better lighting, etc. Nice to say you flew on one before they head to the desert.  Big grin
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:24 am

The DC-10 was my favorite a/c when NW flew them from LAX to MSP and DTW. Now its down to the 753, which is OK, but I would take a DC-10 anyday!

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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:14 am

Most transatlantic flights operated by North American carriers don't have PTVs in Economy... the DC-10 will provide clean, comfortable & hopefully reliable transportation - there's an array of IFE shown on big screens + meal service, etc. Not a bad experience overall....
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:23 am

i'd only flow on NW's DC10-40s and they were starting to look old inside by the time they finally retired them. hopefully i'll get to ride on a 30 series before they are gone.
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:40 am

Most transatlantic flights operated by North American carriers don't have PTVs in Economy...

Is this really true? I think UA, AA and CO offer PTVs in coach on flight to Europe from NYC.

B.

 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:51 am

Is this really true? I think UA, AA and CO offer PTVs in coach on flight to Europe from NYC.

I didn't say anything about NYC -- I said most transatlantic flights operated by North American carriers do not offer PTV.

Consider:
AA - only B777 flights offer PTV, and the B763 operates almost 2/3 of all transatlantic service
UA - all flights offer PTV (the B744 flying to LHR later this fall will not have them, however)
DL - only 8/60+ aircraft flying acrosst the Atlantic have PTV -- number will shrink to 5/60 in January
CO - virtually all flights have them during Summer, but only about half to 2/3 during Fall/Winter/Spring (when CO increased B757 flying)
NW - only two aircraft with PTV so far
US - about half of all flights offer PTV
AC - one of the largest, if not the largest, North American carriers across the Atlantic - no flights have PTV
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:47 pm

Just got back from Hawaii with NW. Sure was nice to fly on a WBC DC-10. Did SEA-HNL on the way out and HNL-LAX on the way back.

60" pitch was great as usual. The interiors make the aircraft seem like it was made in the mid90s not the mid80s.

PTVs in WBC but they only show the same as main cabin on the HNL flights (you dont have a choice of what you watch other than the movie or the map)

Typically friendly NW FA's, good food, Mai Tais before pushback, linens back on the tray tables, hot towels back on the planes (before dinner and before landing), warm choclate chip cookies are back again.

Very nice, well put together, and efficient service. I know some people complain about the carts in WBC or FC, but it makes the service faster and you can work or sleep more.

Anyway- I will try and post a full trip report shortly, but the NW DC10s are still doing a great job, and I am sure you will enjoy your flights.

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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:56 pm

I flew last year with the NW DC10 from CDG to DTW. When I heard that it would be a DC 10, I was happy but thought that the plane would be old and look old inside. Finally it was a very nice flight and I wondered because of the seat alignment : 2 -5 -2 in economy class ! So if you have a window seat, you are lucky !
By the way, service on board was absolutely OK and fine. I don't especially like US Carriers, but NW was definitely OK and in can recommend it.
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:21 pm

I flew from SEA-AMS in the summer of 2000 in a DC-10. It was my first NW DC-10 flight and at that time NW offered decent service. The food was OK, the legroom was fine, and my seat was 35A. It's nice to try to get on the window side of the plane, as there's only two seats there. I would HATE to sit in that absolute middle seat. Flying window in a 747 is bad enough when you gotta ask the whole row to get up (for me, in Japanese) after you've been rather inebriated from all the free drinks.

If I had a choice, and the price was right, then I would fly the "ten" as much as I can on those routes that offered that bird while I could.

One thing to watch for, if you have a wing seat...the DC-10's wing moves A LOT during turbulence, so don't freak out. It moves more than the 747-200, but nonetheless, it sure does move!
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:33 pm

I rode on an NW DC-10 r/t HNL-SEA, and it sucked, on both segments. The interior looked very dreary, and aged. The seats were uncomfortable to say the least. It reminded me of a burned out employee waiting for retirement, Social Security, and being put out to pasture.

The only friendly FA told me she can't wait until they get their A330s, but not until sometime next year, because the European routes will get them 1st, and the Pacific routes last.
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:22 pm

I find many of these comments to be quite humerous. If you've traveled on various airlines recently, you'll know that all of them -- except CO -- have internationally-configured aircraft that are very, very tired looking.

DL and AA have B763 that are just as old as some of NW's DC-10!

[Edited 2003-10-09 06:34:01]
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:29 pm

I have flown on NW DC-10's many times and the interiors looked just fine. They save gobs of money since they own a lot of their planes outright from what I understand, and they take care of them very well.

I was on a DC9 that was older than I was and the interior looked brand new. Very nice!
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:34 pm

1987 SEA-HNL, very nice Aircraft then and most likely still are, enjoy!
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:43 pm

My favorite take-offs were on NW DC-10s. You can feel the power, even more so than a 747. Don't know why though.

My first flight (december 2000) seemed to be an ex-swissair. The arm rests between the seats were fixed! I had 3 seats for myself but couldn't use them. Last year the seats were newer.

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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:40 pm

Nwcoflyer wrote:

'The DC-10 was my favorite a/c when NW flew them from LAX to MSP and DTW. Now its down to the 753'

Not yet..there's a DC-10 going outta here daily (N227NW today) to either Minnee or DTW.

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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:12 pm

does NW sub aircraft sometimes to either SEA/LAX/DTW, every now and then I see a 10 depart, (this isnt the HNL flt, or AMS/LGW. I still wish they flew them to SEA and LAX more frequently.
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:19 pm

Not yet..there's a DC-10 going outta here daily (N227NW today) to either Minnee or DTW.

The DC-10 flies LAX-HNL, there's no other scheduled DC-10 service. The flight will be canceled in December, BTW.
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:54 pm

"there's no other scheduled DC-10 service"

With all the sports events, how about a charter? Or perhaps a ferry flight?
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:37 pm

With all the sports events, how about a charter? Or perhaps a ferry flight?

Charters (including sports) & ferry flights aren't scheduled service...
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:53 pm

IndustrialPete:

So when DL allocates the 777 to the ATL-NRT route, it will allocate 3 of them? I know two of them will be in direct use for the flight, but then maybe one more off-rotation?

How do you calculate 5/8?

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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:58 pm

NW - only two aircraft with PTV so far


Not so. We are up to 4 A330-300 now, soon to be 5.
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:53 am

ATL-NRT requires three birds to operate... while idle, the third plane will be doing a trip to LAX. Thus, there will only be 5 planes with PTVs across one of the largest Atlantic networks among USA-based carriers.
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:30 am

NWA's DC-10-30's from my experience are fine- one I remember flying was an ex Swissair. The -40's (now all retired?) were DREADFUL!
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:05 am

Hi,
NW's DC-10s are just great. I had lots of trips with them and always liked it a lot. Especially the take offs are great.
In fact I just posted a report about a flight with them:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/36675/
I've great memories of my trips with NW's DC10s.
I flew them from DTW to CDG, FRA, LGW, AMS, LAX, from BOS to AMS, DTW, FRA and from MSP to LGW in both Coach and World Business and it was always great service.
Now, they may not be as entertaining and quiet as their 330's but they sure are reliable and safe.
NW DC-10s are way to go!

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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:27 am

Industrial,
I have to take you to task on a couple statements.

Where do you come up w/ AC as being one of the largest transatlantic operators?

The average age of AA's 763ER fleet is about 10 years; DL's is about 7 - far less than NW's 24+ yrs for the D10 fleet. The 762 hasn't even been flying for 24 years - let alone across the Atlantic.
 
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:10 am

Any news on when we may see a NW -10 in new colors ?
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RE: Northwest DC-10 Flights

Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:36 am

WorldTraveler,

You obviously didn't comprehend my statements. I did not say that "AA and DL's B763 are just as old as NW's DC-10," I said that AA and DL operate some B763 across the Atlantic that are just as old as some of NW's newer DC-10. And Air Canada is a major transatlantic player.

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