il75
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AZ: So Long Scandinavia!

Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:37 pm

I heard in Copenhagen that Alitalia is pulling off Denmark this month, at the end of its contract with Azzurra Air currently operating AZ flights.

If this is true it means Alitalia is dropping Scandinavia, after ceasing operations from Stockholm earlier this year.

I find it amazing that they will not be serving the Nordic market. In Stockholm they said it would be temporary but it has been several months now.

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DaV
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RE: AZ: So Long Scandinavia!

Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:44 am

They'll reinstate the service to ARN with Erj170 as soon as they will be delivered. No mention on resuming services to CPH, though.

DaV

[Edited 2003-10-09 17:45:02]
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RE: So Long AZ, Long Live Sardines!

Fri Oct 10, 2003 2:56 am

G'day

For northern Italy, the local carrier serving just about any place north of the alps appears to be Lufthansa. They generally have good connections mainly through Munich to anything further North, the flights are mostly with those sardine liners from Bombardier with no real C-class though.

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RE: AZ: So Long Scandinavia!

Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:29 am

Well, what does it matter? SAS has plenty of non-stop flights to Milan and Rome.

I would guess that much more Scandinavians go to Italy than visa versa. And Scandinavians are usually quite loyal to "their own" airline. So the market demand the other way is likely to be quite small.

There is no reason spending half a day stepping through Europe in sardine liners going between Italy and Scandinavia.

A dozen more destinations are covered when you combine the two Star Alliance operators SK and LH with transfer at FRA.
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matt777
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RE: AZ: So Long Scandinavia!

Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:32 am

When the EMB170s come, they will get back to ARN, and I think they will also operate to CPH.
 
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RE: AZ: So Long Scandinavia!

Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:53 am

Well, what does it matter? SAS has plenty of non-stop flights to Milan and Rome.

I would guess that much more Scandinavians go to Italy than visa versa. And Scandinavians are usually quite loyal to "their own" airline. So the market demand the other way is likely to be quite small.

There is no reason spending half a day stepping through Europe in sardine liners going between Italy and Scandinavia.

A dozen more destinations are covered when you combine the two Star Alliance operators SK and LH with transfer at FRA.




I'm sorry for You, but the Italians are the largest number of foreign tourists in Stockholm and generally in Sweden and in the top 3 in Copenhagen. It was really a bad decision of AZ.
 
sk945
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RE: AZ: So Long Scandinavia!

Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:05 am

.... I'm sorry for You, but the Italians are the largest number of foreign tourists in Stockholm and generally in Sweden and in the top 3 in Copenhagen. It was really a bad decision of AZ.....

VCE, we do get a lot of visits from Italy and thats nice. But no, Italians aint the largerest group visiting Stockholm.
I guess we reiceve most tourist from the following countries:
1 Norway
2 Denmark
3 Germany
4 Finland
5 UK
6 and 7 Holland and Italy
(if you just count Stockholm US will end up very high in the list.

We also have alot of direct flights from ARN to Milan. Both SAS and Sterling flying that route.
 
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RE: AZ: So Long Scandinavia!

Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:33 pm

I occasionally fly to our (SAS) Italian destinations,MXP,FCO and LIN,and I would say about 40% of the passengers are Italian.Fully booked flights almost all of them,as well,so AZ's withdrawal means that our frequencies have to be increased in the near future.A321's are operating often to MXP.We're already re-opening Venice an Bologna next year due to the rapidly rising demand.
Italians have been among the largest tourist groups here in Norway for the last couple of years.
Strange decision,AZ!
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DaV
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RE: AZ: So Long Scandinavia!

Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:25 am

Italians have been among the largest tourist groups here in Norway for the last couple of years.

Yes, I noticed during my summer vacation  Big grin

Any chance that SAS will start an OSL-MXP in the near future? Maybe with Braathens equipment...

DaV
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heisan67
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RE: AZ: So Long Scandinavia!

Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:47 pm

Braathens pulled out of Milano not long ago. Today Braathens operate Oslo - Roma nonstop. Sterling operates Oslo - Bergamo, Oslo - Roma as well.

Braathens pulled out before SAS bought them, so perhaps it's time to reconsider opening the service again.

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