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What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:52 am

I have been wondering for a long time what the difference is between an MD-80 and what AA calls a Super 80? the safety cards even say Super-80. Is this just a gimmick or is there actually something that makes the American MD-80s signifigantly different from everyone elses? I noticed the ex-TWA MD-80s are still called MD-80s not Super 80s
 
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:56 am


We have super-charged engines.

No difference, just a name used.
 
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:57 am

The MD-80 program was originally designated DC-9 Super 80 (DC-9-80). The name MD-80 took effect later.
 
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:03 am

Actually, by the time AA began operating the type, they were being called MD-80s. What happened was that AA thought "Super 80" had a good ring for marketing purposes. Some ads included features about the "Super 80".

I mean, wouldn't you rather fly a "Super" aircraft?

This is what happens when high-level Marketing guys come up with ideas. They end up part of the promotion no matter how stupid the idea might be.

And I'm majoring in Marketing... (sigh...)
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:42 am

One uses Jet A, the other uses Super Jet A.
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-

Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:45 am

Leave it up to marketing people.. I guess that comes from having all that extra time to party in college ( I am an accounting major)
 
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:47 am

Nothing, AA decided to name the Super 80 when they still wrote on the noses(back in the good ol' days of 757 Luxury Liners and such...)
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:05 am

So the difference is just AA?! **Hic**!

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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:07 am

haha, Im not sure of any other airlines that call thei planes Super 80s. Maybe the AA Super 80 has been informally adopted and used....lol
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:56 am


And you can tell that Sabre and Travelocity are (were) related to AA. When I book a corporate trip on a DL MD-88, the itinerary always says "Super 80".
 
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:58 am

Alitalia has "Super 80" on their engines as well, but calls them "MD-80's" for fleet references.

It's interesting to note that the inflight announcement still says "Benvenuti abordo il Super 80 Alitalia"
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-

Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:15 pm

Super 80 is on the nose of all the AA MD-80s except the ex-TWA ones.. They say MD-80, the safety cards say Super-80 and when you book a flight on one the travelocity thingy says Super-80
 
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-

Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:08 pm

Just a case of marketing semantics ... MD-80, Super 80, or DC-9-80 ... it's all the same
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:12 pm

It just depends on who was running the marketing department when the plane was built.


The Super 80 was the original Douglas sales pitch. MD-80 came about after the merger.
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:17 pm

Delta used to call their DC-8-63s "Super Sixties." Same idea. No one else called it that.
 
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:24 pm

Calling an MD-80 a "Super 80" is basicly the same as calling a 777 the "Triple"

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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:28 pm

I was looking at some old PSA schedules,the oldest
I have dated is 12-17-80, does ID as DC-9 Super80.
But then in a 1985 schedule,it is refer to MD series.
PSA was, I believe, the first carrier to use the type
in the US. Swiss was the first overall.


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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:37 pm

The two first airline users of the type:


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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:34 pm

When AA acquired Reno Air, The noses on the MD-90s said Super 90, But the SafetyCards were just Reno Air Style with American's name, and MD-90 across the top in Green Lettering.
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:09 am

MD-80 has a "screwdriver" tail, and the DC-9-80 has a cone tail. And there's some changes in the avionics in the MD-80
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:40 am

Not all MD-80s have screwdriver tails. The original MD-80s have cone tails. The screwdriver tails are MD-83s. I think there are some other differences, like fuel capacity and such, but the tail cones are the only visible difference.
 
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:46 am

The newer MD-82s have Screwdriver tails, Some MD-83s have Cone Tails (If a customer wanted the fleet to look like the 100s of MD-81s and 82s they had. But ALL MD-88s have Screwdriver Tails. And all 717s have Screwdriver tails. I remember hearing something like TWA wanted a Cone Tail for their 717, but Boeing refused to go through the costs of changing it around.
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RE: What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80

Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:47 am

L-188:

The MD-80/Super 80 project was started long after the merger. The name was changed during production and A simply chose not to adopt it.

The "screwdriver tail", or the Beaver Tail as MDD called it, was adopted in 1986 for all variants of the MD-80 except the MD-81, of which only a few more were built. Many of the older MD-80s have been refitted with this tail cone type, but most still use the original cone.

MD-80, Super 80, and DC-9-80, it's all the same.
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