wbryce
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Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:38 pm

Bit of a tough subject for myself.

As most of yous don't know im in the training phase for my frozen atpl, not yet started, all my funding etc just came through.

But I have an outstanding court case thats still to come up regarding me and my girlfriend and 6 drunken lads who tried to assualt me and do damage to my car, unfortunatley there was only going to be one outcome, with me being injured or some of them, and self defence i could only protect myself, and my girlfriend, but it appears the law doesn't look at it this way, and im facing assualt charges, just now i dont know what level of assualt.

It could be dropped in the court room who knows, but until then i can only plot out my career as it is just now, i dont want to wait 1 year until my court date even gets given to me, i want to get my life sorted as it is just now.

As you can imagine, funding your own training is alot to put at risk, so i have to find out all the implications this may cause on me.

If anyone would like to help me with some knowledge it would be great, no one so far has been able to help me, or guide me.

Will
 
northseatiger
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RE: Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:55 pm

The way I understand it is that if you have a criminal record you will not be able to hold a restricted zone pass, so there for you would not be able to fly, if you contact disclosure they should have a list of qualifying offences and you would be able to better check what if any implications this up-coming case may have.
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wbryce
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RE: Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:11 pm

Who is it i would contact regarding the restricted zone passes?

If i understand the FAA just now dont go by criminal records on pilots, they monitor the pilots health, physical and mental.

This is so what a career development officer told me from a florida based flight school.

I just hope theres a solution to all of this  Sad

Ryan, ive sent you a quick email.
 
northseatiger
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RE: Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:24 pm

The criminal record check I was referring to is applicable to the uk so if you are outside the uk the criteria will differ.
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wbryce
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RE: Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:34 pm

Ok,

Who is it who enforces this? So I can check my scenario with them.

Cheers
Will
 
northseatiger
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RE: Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:05 am

In the UK I think it is The department of trade and industry or some other government body, I work at a british airport and I have had to fill out forms to a body called "disclosure" where they will check you're status. From now on any one with a criminal record cannot hold a restricted zone pass, these are issued by the airports governing body i.e the british airport authority, to gain access to certain areas of the airport i.e airside, so no pass you can't be a pilot because you can't get airside to the aircraft. Try contacting the dti or disclosure.

hope that helps
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wbryce
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RE: Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:18 am

Ok cheers mate, guess thats one point to look at before i splash out.

Obviously they will have rules and rules have to be stuck by, but a hopefully its not as blunt as "anyone without a criminal record can get in here" hopefully they will have mental and health accessments, obviously letting a pilot with a record fly could be a risk? but one with assualt GBH, or ABH, i doubt i would have intentions that those rules are there to protect.

So hopefully theres more to it than that, at the end of the day, i could walk away from court without a record, just now its hard to say as this current time.

 
JAL777
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RE: Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:22 am

Maybe its different here, but don't you have to be convicted first before it goes on your record??
 
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RE: Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:30 am

When I applied to be a F/A with AA they had us fill out this sheet regarding any prior criminal convictions. It asked us to put a check besides any offences that we had been convicted of. It started off with "minor traffic violations" then progressed on to more serious criminal acts like "armed robbery, rape, and murder". The last thing it asked was if we had ever been convicted of "air piracy". I thought that was kind of funny.
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wbryce
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RE: Criminal Records Regarding Training/employment

Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:44 am

Yep you have to be convicted before it goes on record....

Thats what im saying, my court isn't for roughly between 9-12 months time, im just trying to plan out my future, for A) If i do get convicted. If i dont, then my plan will just remain the same.