Motorhussy
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Perth To London Non-stop?

Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:16 pm

Well what do you reckon? If QF bought A340-530's, there'd be a case for it, as well as Sydney-Auckland-New York, even Sydney-New York direct. And Sydney-Perth-London is getting more appealing for the increasingly xenophobic Australian business traveler.
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RE: Perth To London Non-stop?

Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:22 pm

Only if the offered a sort premium economy/business product a la SQ - PER-LHR has got to be about 20 hours flying time - too long to sit in one of QF's little Economy coffins. You'd have dozens of people keeling over from DVT in the baggage claim at LHR.
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RE: Perth To London Non-stop?

Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:28 pm

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PER LHR 9009 mi
SIN LAX 8770 mi
SIN JFK 9537 mi

Range would obviously not be a problem since it is quite a bit shorter than SIA's soon to be launched SIN-JFK.

But is there a demand?

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RE: Perth To London Non-stop?

Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:32 pm

I just hope that this is read by a QF staffer

"QF's little Economy coffins" is a gem that execs should take note of.

And yes, once again SQ leads the charge - exec economy for longhaul.
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Bill
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RE: Perth To London Non-stop?

Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:45 am

Jeremiah,

You are right, the distance between PER-LHR would be shorter than SIN-JFK. But it doesn't mean the flight would be possible.

The route SIN-JFK would be a "Polar Route" and when you fly close to the Pole winds are quiet low and disorganized.
The route PER-LHR would not be a "Polar Route" and winds could be a problem in this case.

Bill

[Edited 2003-10-17 00:48:56]
 
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RE: Perth To London Non-stop?

Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:09 am

Would probably prompt BA to do so with a 772LR as well, good stuff!

Hmm, come to think of it, QF may opt for the 777NG (they did help design the bird to some of the specifications they'd need) instead of A345 as well
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RE: Perth To London Non-stop?

Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:17 am

This could also be a possible option for VS.

With SQ blocking Changi (to protect their market), and VS's tie in with Malaysia at KUL, and with 5th freedom rights still trying to be negotiated with Hong Kong, maybe a direct route via Perth would fit in as the answer for their route to Oz?

A345's would also compliment the A346 fleet quite nicely.

Only problem I could foresee is VS not adopting a config like that of SQ - preferring a higher density outfit in Y class - a la BA/QF.

Because of this I'm sure VS would prefer a 747/A380 route with a traditional kangaroo stop over.

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RE: Perth To London Non-stop?

Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:33 am

Richard28: With SQ blocking Changi (to protect their market), and VS's tie in with Malaysia at KUL, and with 5th freedom rights still trying to be negotiated with Hong Kong, maybe a direct route via Perth would fit in as the answer for their route to Oz?

How has SQ blocked Changi to protect its market? Qantas has as many flights through Changi as it could possibly want . . . including basing planes at Changi for regional flights (which it did not exercise) . . . QF has been utilising much of its rights through Singapore since the days of the Empire flying boats.

Qantas currently picks up a tremendous number of London-bound passengers in Singapore . . . does Perth promise the same catchment and yield? At the end of the day, airlines are driven by dollars and sense (commercial sense) . . . something that Richard28 in his Finance capacity should comprehend far better than an outsider like me.

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