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LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:44 am

LAX/LAS service returns to NWA effective December 26; flights will initally be operated with DC-9 aircraft but will switch to A319 within a couple weeks. Previous service, operated with A320, ended on 9/10/01 as a result of the events of 9/11. These flights are timed to connect with NW's LAX-NRT flights & virtually all passengers are expected to be Japanese tourists / passengers connecting onto the NRT flight. The general public will likely have a difficult time obtaining cheap tickets on these flights (as most tickets will be sold by various Japanese tour operators for various tour packages which include transportation on various airlines) -- the lowest price exceeds $400 with tax r/t currently.

Effective December 26:
NW661 departs LAS 8:40AM, arrives LAX 9:40AM
NW664 departs LAX 10:40AM, arrives LAS 11:40AM
flights will be operated with DC-9-30 aircraft

Effective January 6:
NW661 departs LAS 8:40AM, arrives LAX 9:40AM
NW664 departs LAX 9:10AM, arrives LAS 10:10AM, continues onto MKE
flights will be operated with A319 aircraft
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:54 am

Let's get the obvious response out of the way:

"They're going after AirTran, ATA and JetBlue with this route!!!"

(one more time: it will be VERY difficult to obtain a modestly-priced ticket for this route unless you're traveling to/from Asia...)

 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:00 am

Why are they going after FL?
NEXT FLIGHT: FLL-ATL-HPN on FL
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:03 am

Ever hear of sarcasm?  Smile
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:04 am

Don't worry, its a joke, cuz everytime one of the network carriers decides to launch a new route, the LCC fans shout predatory pricing, etc and say its a direct attack against the LCC's. How dare an airline attempt to compete....blah, blah, blah...its a sarcastic remark because too many people on this website take too many things out of context.

My personal favorite being how people are so against United auctioning off circa-1970's ground equipment, vans with 100,000 miles, and DC-10 mx equipment. Its a frickin' auction! Not a move in desparation to raise cash.
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:29 am

I wonder why they decided to put in their own flights....they've had a codeshare with America West on those routes for a few years now. But our flights on those routes are full enough with our own passengers!
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:30 am

I didn't read the end of the message,sorry. plus B6 flies LA-LAS
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:34 am

so what is the routing of the airplane? since they dont fly any DC-9's outof LA to the hubs or MKE?
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:34 am

The route in 2001, pre - 9/11 was flown by a mix of A320 and 757-200 aircraft.


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If I recall correctly the flight came about at the time the 747-200 nonstop Las Vegas - Tokyo/Narita was discontinued!

Northwest is looking to compete with no other airline on this market, for NW's purposes this is like a Narita Connection Shuttle. This flight serves one purpose only - to connect to/from Tokyo/Narita!

Northwest is not looking for the $30. One Way, flip flop, and free coupon crowd on these flights!

The unfortunate thing is that the route doesnt support the actual 747-200 utilized on the LAX-NRT route!

Do any of you know if it is true the LAX-NRT will be reverting to a 747-400?
If so, that is excellent news!



 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:43 am

so what is the routing of the airplane? since they dont fly any DC-9's outof LA to the hubs or MKE?
It'll be a single DC-9 exclusivlely operating the flights for a couple weeks ... it'll be parked at LAS for almost 20-hours daily! The 319's being rotated from MKE.

Do any of you know if it is true the LAX-NRT will be reverting to a 747-400?
LAX-NRT is already a B744. The B742 are being phased out.

But our flights on those routes are full enough with our own passengers!
NW pays HP a flat rate per passenger... from what I know, it's a lucrative deal for HP -- thus NW's decided to develope the route themselves to save $$$.
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:46 am

Ahh...I see! In the whole time I worked in PHX, where we had and still have a dedicated check-in line for the NW codeshare flights....I saw very few people for it. It was a nightmare for FF miles...people saw that NW was one of our partners and they assume they can get Worldperk miles on any flight. It's only allowed on certain flights...I had my fair share of merry-go-rounds with people concerning this. Oye!
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:53 am

Many (most?) PHX-based NW travelers prefer to purchase separate PHX-LAX/SFO/SEA and traspacific tickets, as it's usually significantly cheaper. The AS codeshares from PHX/AS / KLAS), USA - Nevada">LAS to SEA are usually significantly cheaper than the HP codeshares... I wonder if NW/HP will split in the near future, as their partnership is meaningless today anyway. Not to mention NW tried to kill HP last spring with ultra-cheap fares ex-PHX after HP turned into a so-called LCC  Smile.
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 11:00 am

That's true IP, I've seen many people with separate tickets so it is pretty meaningless and I wouldn't be upset to see it go.

Everybody lowered their fares out of PHX when HP did....I wouldn't call us a LCC either.....maybe Lower Cost Carrier...hehe. We're hovering on the edge though, that's for sure.
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:06 pm

AA flys LAX to LAS too...
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:07 pm

AA flys LAX to LAS too...

As does UA and WN  Smile.
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:27 pm

How long did NWA operate NRT-LAS?

Did they give any reason as to why it was discontinued? I'm assuming due to low yields even if loads were extremely high (which I'm sure they were).

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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:39 pm

What a great benefit to those of us on the East coast!  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:43 pm

LAS-NRT was inaugurated twice-weekly at the same time ORD-NRT was cancelled in mid-1998. The flight appeared to be a success, going thrice-weekly within months… but many factors – such as the declining Asian/Japanese economy, lack of cargo (which had to be trucked in from Los Angeles) and low yields caused NW to cancel the flight in 2000. The airline instead extended the LAX-NRT service to LAS, operating the domestic segment with a mixture of B757 and A320. NW insisted the new service was better as it gave Japanese passengers daily LAS service, while repositioning the LAS-NRT slots for a MSP-NRT flight which had opportunity for greater yield (note that it was mentioned from the beginning that DTW would receive the second MSP frequency once the WorldGateway opened). NW operated LAS-LAX via 9/10/01, when it was cancelled as a result of the events of 9-11. Note that the flight was almost exclusively designed for Japanese/Asia-bound passengers – NW rarely – if ever – published modestly priced fares.

[Edited 2003-10-19 06:00:22]
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:01 pm

Interesting, thanks for that.

While it's true that there is lots of demand for Asia - Las Vegas flights, it's all low-yield traffic.

Even Singapore Air tried and they couldn't succeed. I heard loads were very good, but yields weren't.

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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:08 pm

NW rarely – if ever – published modestly priced fares

Au contraire. I recall NW always having the lowest published fare of the big-6 in the LAS-LAX market, although availablity in the bottomfeeder buckets was rarely available.
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:28 pm

Previous service, operated with A320, ended on 9/10/01 as a result of the events of 9/11

What??? Why did they end service early?? Confused

Sarcasm Industrial Patent...  Wink/being sarcastic

Seriously though, it is nice to see some routes slowly coming back.

~TJ

[Edited 2003-10-19 08:30:21]
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:08 pm

I recall NW always having the lowest published fare of the big-6 in the LAS-LAX market, although availablity in the bottomfeeder buckets was rarely available.

That could be -- in those days I cheked prices via NWA.com, Expedia, etc. -- I didn't know about researching fares, bucket availability, routings, etc. Besides, the times always sucked anyway  Smile.
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:01 am

In reference to Las Vegas to Tokyo/Narita.

- Japan Airlines commenced 747-300/747-400 service while Northwest Airlines was still flying the route. The inbound Japan Airlines was non-stop and the outbound stopped in Los Angeles. (This flight still operates today and is very successful)

In reference to Las Vegas to Asia demand.

- ANA runs charters on a 747-400 to Osaka from time to time

- Korean Airlines rumored new service in the 1990's

- Philippine Airlines is inaugurating A340 service to Manila via Vancouver in 2004!

- Singapore Airlines operated 777-200 service nonstop to Hong Kong in 2002-2003! This flight had two major issues! 1/The timing of the flight - certain days of the week this flight would leave at 730am! 2/The Raffles Class cabin was always full, with Economy near empty!

So, In closing we can say for sure Las Vegas has higher Asia demand than most US gateways!
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:03 am

Will you ever SQ returns to LAS again? I might to think about it of those flight is doing quite well. You still has to another chance for SQ back to LAS again?
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:37 am

I thought the outbound 744 or 743 flight stopped in SFO. It was on the JL routemap
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:21 pm

NW has now published a ~$100 r/t inclusive fare, although availability is virtually non-existant. But this new service proves those who insisted that CA's tough restrictions would prevent scheduled DC-9 flights wrong  Big grin.

So, In closing we can say for sure Las Vegas has higher Asia demand than most US gateways!
Of course it does -- same with Europe. But I doubt the flights are very profitable... JL has been rumored to want out for quite awhile - not due to low-demand, but due to low-yields/etc.

Will you ever SQ returns to LAS again?
Not for a long, long time - they completely withdrew from LAS (offices, etc.).

[Edited 2003-10-20 07:24:45]
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:55 pm

IndustrialPate-

Okay, let me review a few things with you!

Japan Air Lines wants to pull out of Las Vegas?

Does JAL know this?
Does JTB know about this?
Does the Las Vegas International Airport know this?

Singapore Airlines-

Contract was handled by Swissport. The airline suspended operations. The rights for the route are still there. Please keep in mind, Singapore has invested a lot of money in this project. I think it would be best to hold off on saying that their offices in Las Vegas closed! Where was it located? Swissport to my knowledge did all of the op's for Singapore Airlines!

Philippine Airlines-

They would not want to invest in a U.S. market everyone pulled out of. So for the time being JAL is in Las Vegas. We invite Philippine Airlines with welcome arms!

By the way Las Vegas also recieves -

AeroMexico
MD-80
to Hermosillo

Air Canada
A320
to Vancouver
A320/767-200
to Toronto

Condor
767-300
to Frankfurt, Germany

Jets Go
MD-80
to Canada

Mexicana
757-200
to Mexico City

Virgin Atlantic
747-400
to London, England

and numerous other International Airlines!
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:08 pm

The rights for the route are still there.

Considering that Singapore and the USA have open skies, you can make an equally valid statement that they hold "rights" to fly into Albuquerque or Boise.
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:12 pm

Kl777jfk,
I learned earlier it's hard to have a constructive argument with you (did I say demand to LAS wasn't there - especially from places like Canada, Mexico, etc.). Go read the Las Vegas newspapers online -- when I was last in Las Vegas, there was an article printed in the newspaper about the airport struggling to keep JAL's service, and possibly having to offer subsidies.
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:42 pm

Will be interesting to see a NW 9 at LAX, has Northwest ever operated the 9 out of LA/LV or any point in the far west?
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:38 pm

Ok.. a little confused here, but it's early....

NW operated LAS-LAX via 9/10/01, when it was cancelled as a result of the events of 9-11.

How could a route cancelled on 9/10 be a result of something that happened on 9/11?
Ask why..
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:03 pm

How could a route cancelled on 9/10 be a result of something that happened on 9/11?

Because all flights were grounded before the flight was scheduled to depart on 9-11...
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:46 pm

IndustrialPate,

Before you open another one of your whimpering, childish messages ...


Please, get your facts straight!

First, Newspapers are like tabloids... Dont believe everything you read!

How did NWA suspend LAS-LAX the day before.... If you were in Las Vegas over 9/11, if you have not worked within the industry, if you do now know people anywhere except for the inside of your beloved, and coddled NWA...

DONT WRITE ANYTHING!

Please, I am sure people are starting to believe JAL is going to pull out! Dont, please dont!
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:56 pm

IndustrialPate,

Before you open another one of your messages ...

Please, get the facts straight!

In regards to JAL, please watch what you say. Do you realize the economic impact of JAL pulling out of the market. Believe me, the casinos and the city of Las Vegas will make many concessions before that is done! Bottom line about JAL, pulling out! It is extremely, extremely unlikely to happen. This route is maing money for both the airline and the destination!

First, Newspapers are like tabloids... Dont believe everything you read!

How did NWA suspend LAS-LAX the day before??

NWA, is notorious for starting and dumping routes..

ANC-NRT
LAS-NRT
LAS-LAX
ORD-NRT
ORD-SEL
LAX-SYD
LAX-HKG
LAX-KIX
LAX-HNL
BOS-LGW
BOS-CDG
BOS-MAD
BOS-FRA
BOS-GLA
BOS-SFO
BOS-LAX
HNL-NGO
HNL-SFO
MSP-OSL
DTW-MAD
DTW-MXP
DTW-FCO
DTW-HKG
KIX-SYD
NRT-CGK
NRT-MNL
NRT-GUM
NRT-SPN

Please insure what you say... Is of solid proof!

Please, I am sure people are starting to believe JAL is going to pull out! Dont, please dont!
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:01 am

KL777

You're saying don't write anything? But what about free speech? Or don't you believe in it, except for yourself?

That's quite a difference from your conversations yesterday.

 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:03 am

I always thought Industrial Patent had some pretty decent resources and information from more than just "inside NWA," but I guess Kl777 knows something about him the rest of us don't.

Try having a discussion without having to insult others and poke at them, it will make your arguments much more believable.
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:07 am

I'm really beginning to wonder which person here needs to "insure" (sic) that their facts are straight.

IP has been here (and at Flyertalk) for months and has proven himself to be pretty darn reliable. This kid pops out of left field with a half-baked agenda that nobody can quite figure out and expects to be taken seriously on day 2.

Pardon the skepticism, but we've been down that road before *cough*ILS*cough*  Smile
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:11 am

Folks,

I think the NW LAX-LAS flight is aimed at a very niche market: Japanese passengers flying the NRT-LAX route continuing on to LAS.

For us Americans, we have a huge choice of flights to LAS from the Los Angeles area, thanks primarily to Southwest (WN) and America West (HP) airlines.
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:38 am

Las Vegas - Los Angeles Market

*Aloha Airlines
(SNA/BUR) by 737-700

*American Airlines
(LAX) by MD-80

*America West Airlines
(LAX/SNA/ONT) by 737-200, 737-300, A320, A319, 757-200

*Delta Airlines -service is on/off, on/off
(LAX) by 737-800, 757-200

*Japan Air Lines (LAX:no domestic traffic)*

*JetBlue
(LGB) by A320

*Hawaiian Airlines
(ONT) by 767-300

*Southwest Airlines
(LAX/SNA/BUR/ONT) by 737-300, -500, -700

*United Airlines
(LAX) by 737-300, -500, A320, 757-200


Good Luck to NWA!

The bottom line, as earlier mentioned! This is not a competitive route for NWA! This is solely to provide transport for passengers continuing to/from Las Vegas to Tokyo/Narita!
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:08 am

"Au contraire. I recall NW always having the lowest published fare of the big-6 in the LAS-LAX market, although availablity in the bottomfeeder buckets was rarely available."

Hmmm... I confirm any attractive fares were blocked from sale by NW on this route- I tried to get an airpass issued with an LAX-LAS flight and that sector could never get confirmed. I then did an availability check and found that there wasn't a single seat available over a 6 month period where this flight could be confirmed in any bucket class.
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:33 am

Sorry, Kl777jfk, you're the one who needs to get your facts straight. NW never operated half the routes you listed (e.g. LAX-HKG, BOS-CDG, BOS-MAD, DTW-MAD, DTW-HKG, KIX-SYD, AA), Japan">NRT-CGK) and they still operate AA), Japan">NRT-MNL, AA), Japan">NRT-GUM and AA), Japan">NRT-SPN. If you were to make a listing of routes dumped by DL, AA (which dumped hubs at SJC, RDU and BNA within the past decade), ORD, US and CO during the past decade, you'd find that NW hasn't had any more of a history than its compeition. I'm not going to argue with you, because I'm highly confident of the information I post & you're trying to discredit some of it without any proof.

Like I said before, I'd love to read a trip report about your travels in your very own chartered Concorder  Wink/being sarcastic.


 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:39 am

"This is not a competitive route for NWA! This is solely to provide transport for passengers continuing to/from Las Vegas to Tokyo/Narita!"

Could it be that perhaps this is the reason why NW is starting this route???

I doubt seriusly that an airline would start a route...even if seems like an odd one to some people...if they didn't have a purpose for it. More power to NWA.


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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:41 am

whydont they fly to SFO or SEA to have pax continue to NRT out of those cities? Why just LAX?
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:57 pm

LAX gets a larger aircraft from NRT (744) and is also closer to LAS, though I don't know if that makes a difference.

I believe SFO and SEA get the DC-10 and 742?
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:33 pm

KL, lets dissect these routes for a moment to see if you can engage in fact before you post.

ANC-AA), Japan">NRT: Still operated as cargo...no longer needed to fly pax through ANC as, for the past 30 years or so, most aircraft have had the range to do west-coast to Japan routes.

LAS-AA), Japan">NRT: Cancelled for the very reason this post exists.

LAS-LAX: Reinstated for connecting pax.

ORD-AA), Japan">NRT: Route rights transferred to MSP in tandem for eventual transfer to DTW. NW did not have enough feeder capacity, nor the name in the Chicagoland area that AA/UA had, so the route was not profitable. Send it to a hub and provide connecting passengers.

ORD-SEL: See above.

LAX-SYD: See about the debacle between Japan, Australia, and the 5th freedom rights NW was stripped of.

LAX-HKG: One-stop through AA), Japan">NRT in effort to build asian hub.

LAX-KIX: Transferred to DTW

LAX-HNL: Still operated.
BOS-LGW: With KLM partnership solidified, and in an effort to find some concrete financial ground, NW focused on building the AMS hub with connections to cities. Coveted routes such as LGW, CDG, FRA sent to hubs, moreover, Detroit, where the Republic acquisition allowed NW to have a true hub and build a European gateway. No connecting traffic, plus DL's acquisition of many Pan Am routes. Delta also could leverage their large east-southeast position for better connections.

BOS-CDG: See above
BOS-MAD: See above
BOS-FRA: See above
BOS-GLA: See above
BOS-SFO: See above
BOS-LAX: See above

HNL-NGO: Died shortly after HP's NGO route died. AA), Japan">NRT was more lucrative.

HNL-SFO: Competition edged them out.

MSP-OSL: Scandanavian contingent in MSP thought to be larger than it was, so they pulled out...Icelandair has proved otherwise.

DTW-MAD: I believe this route may be resurrected as a seasonal one.

DTW-MXP: Extremely poor loads. Again, use KL to connect.

DTW-FCO: See above...incidentally, I was on this flight in 02/2001, one of 18 passengers outbound, 14 on the return.

DTW-HKG: Use AA), Japan">NRT.
KIX-SYD: See above link for 5th freedom debacle.
AA), Japan">NRT-CGK: ???
AA), Japan">NRT-MNL: Still Operated
AA), Japan">NRT-GUM: Still Operated
AA), Japan">NRT-SPN: Still Operated
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:10 am

NW DC-9 at LAX...now THAT's a news item!
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:01 am

IndustrialPate,

From the sounds of it.....

You never had the oppurtunity to fly Northwest Airlines via the Boston base!

You would know that it was the principal European gateway for NWA at one time!

You would know that NWA flew from KIX-SYD... but the poor babies..got the route taken away!

Oh ..dear!


And as stated above ----

NWA and AeroCalifornia should start a partnership it could be called -

"THE LAST 2 DC-9 OPERATORS ON THE COAST",

or better yet

"RELICS"

or even

"DC9WORLD"

ah.... the list goes on... enjoy your DC-9!...and your A320 with no IFE!
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:24 am

KL:
You never had the oppurtunity to fly Northwest Airlines via the Boston base!

And that disputes the relevancy of his post how?

You would know that it was the principal European gateway for NWA at one time!

ANC used to be the pricipal pacific gateway as well. So what? For someone who claims to have KLM as a hobby, you should see the fiscal benefits of streamlining travel through a single European gateway.

You would know that NWA flew from KIX-SYD... but the poor babies..got the route taken away!

That's right, they sure did. In forging the routes through uncharted 5th freedom territory, they were stripped of the rights to fly these routes, without much clarification as to why.

"THE LAST 2 DC-9 OPERATORS ON THE COAST",

When did Aeromexico close up shop?

ah.... the list goes on... enjoy your DC-9!...and your A320 with no IFE!

Because an IFE surely dictates better service, prices, and times. Of course, why not undertake a huge financial outlay on an IFE system for a domestic fleet which is a part of an airline that posted a profit? Where else to spend the money?
I mean, for the right price I’ll fight a lion. - Mike Tyson
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:37 am

MLsrar ... what a great posting. Thanks! It just proves there will always be NW bashers out there, who are obviously not very educated on NW. Obviously if there were an A320 or A319 we could put on the route right away we would, but it does take a little planning for routing a/c. Not to mention we have a few DC9 currently sitting, so it makes sense to utilize one until we can make a switch and upgrade.

And to think NW posted a profit when all the analyst didn't think it was going to happen.
 
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RE: LAX/LAS Service Returns To NWA Effective 12/26

Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:42 am

Kl777-

I am sure the casinos etc will pour *tons* of cash into JAL's precense in LAS. Just like they did with National.

-Tony
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