rockyracoon
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Future For ACA DL Connection

Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:31 am

Does Atlantic Coast intend to continue their 328 jet services for delta? What will happen if Mesa indeed purchases them or if they start their own solo project?

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srbmod
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RE: Future For ACA DL Connection

Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:53 am

I don't think Mesa will keep the 328s around as they'll probably replace them with a type already in the Mesa stable, more than likely they'll add more CRJ-200s or maybe the Embraer 145 (I do find it odd that they have both the CRJ-100/200 and the ERJ-145 in their fleet). Or they could order some ERJ-135s to replace the 328s with. If Mesa's offer is unsuccessful, I see ACA's plans in regards to Delta Connection service stay the same, or maybe even grow more. If Mesa is successful in taking over ACA, those 328s will be swiftly dumped, probably below market value to someone like Great Plains.
 
ouboy79
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RE: Future For ACA DL Connection

Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:56 am

I wouldn't be shocked to see the 328s transferred to another DCI carrier.
 
BH346
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RE: Future For ACA DL Connection

Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:57 am

I thought I read from an article somewhere that DCI is not very happy with the Do328JETs due to reliability issues and such. Perhaps someone who knows this more can elaborate.
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luv2fly
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RE: Future For ACA DL Connection

Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:05 am

I also read an article about DL connection partners and yes they are not happy with the 328's. DL would like nothing more than to have them gone.
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srbmod
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RE: Future For ACA DL Connection

Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:06 am

DCI does not own the 328s, ACA owns them. Yes DCI, is not a big fan of the 328s because of the dispatch reliabilty (they have twice the number of MX CXs compared to the CRJs), but the only other choices in that seating range are turboprops.
 
B4REAL
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RE: Future For ACA DL Connection

Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:14 am

I have heard from a Comair gate agent and an ACA pilot (for a CRJ) that the DoJos are a maintenance headache.

From the passenger side, I actually like that aircraft better than a CRJ. Further, I like how DL Connection staffs it - the FA wears DL uniform, announces the flight as "Delta Connection flight 6XXX operated by Atlantic Coast..." Where Comair and ASA announce it as Comair or ASA flight, leaving out the Delta Connection part most of the time.

That in my opinion, streamlines the customer experience.
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ATL2CDG
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Misconceptions Re: ASA

Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:53 am

Actually, ASA crews are instructed to announce flights as 'Delta Connection flight 4XXX operated by Atlantic Southeast Airlines.' However, given that ASA has been around since 1979, it's people, especially the more senior flight attendants and pilots, are accustomed to the 'older version' of identifying things, etc. Personally, I'd prefer that we all announce the same, dress the same, serve the same, etc, however, with DCI allowing each carrier to operate independently with a lot leeway, it's difficult to create uniformity throughout the system.

ASA management has repeatedly spoke of a 'seamless travel experience' for Delta's customers. However, with the same management unwilling to foot the cost of complete uniform replacement, failing to communicate with other DCI carriers and refusing to follow their own guidelines, I doubt that we'll see a major 'streamlining' of the customer experience.

DCI wants the job done at the cheapest price. Hello Chautauqua.
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FutureFO
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RE: Future For ACA DL Connection

Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:15 pm

1) Mesa is not going to own ACA.

2) The FRJ's are going to stay in the DLC fleet and are not moving anytime soon. The problem with the FRJ's is that they are new a/c and as all new a/c they have bugs that need to be worked out.



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