eastbay
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Has anyone flown Aerocalifornia?

Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:31 pm

Flew out of Tucson this afternoon, saw Aerocalifornia's DC-9 in there for the first time in a while. They serve Hermosillo/Los Mochis/Culiacan three times weekly, and you can connect to La Paz. I'm thinking of going down there maybe next month, has anyone flown on them? Their DC-9's are cool to see, lots of color, and a rare sight, at least in Tucson. On another note, does anyone have any insight into whether they have a replacement plan, or will the old 9's keep going for the forseeable future? I hope they keep the current color scheme regardless....


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MX340LOV
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RE: Aerocalifornia

Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:38 pm

When you get on the plane, try to get the msn, then check it out and it may be one of the first dc-9 ever built.
I´ve never flown with them, but friends that have flown have complained about the a/c, and they are right, planes are +30 years old.

sorry I have nothing good to say about them


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RE: Aerocalifornia

Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:33 pm

The prettiest flight attendants around. Good service AFAIK. Old planes -some prefer to call'em classics-.
It is safe. Otherwise neither FAA or the picky (is this how you spell it?) DGAC would have grounded them long ago. There is no reason to be worried; the planes that do the international trips are newer DC9-32's series that still have some time left to go (ask NW about it).

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RE: Aerocalifornia

Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:51 pm

Fly727:

You say that the planes are safe because neither FAA nor DGAC has grounded them or because you know people inside the airline and they tell you it´s safe?
I mean, the fact that the governmental agencies give their go ahead is more than a proof to your statement, but I just wanted to know the basis of your statement.
One of the reasons I never fly Aerocalifornia is because their planes seem so unreliable to me (yes, due to their age, I know that you can crash in a brand new a/c, but any way I don´t feel comfortable with +30 years old).

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fly727
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RE: Aerocalifornia

Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:41 pm

You say that the planes are safe because neither FAA nor DGAC has grounded them or because you know people inside the airline and they tell you it??s safe?

So; I only have two reasons to choose from? Okay... I'll make my point...

Whatever might be said by a line mechanic or the Director of Maintenance will without a doubt fall in the zone of subjectivity. Our appreciations and conclusions upon someone else's comment tend to be far from what it is true. Remember that what "X" conceive as good might not concurr with "Y" opinion. It is a matter of perspective. An issue that couldn't be more distant of the scientific method.

I will refer to the only objective, technical and suitable-to-be-proved sources: The adherence to directives, the elaboration and application of manuals and all the black and white stuff; inspections, training, etc -all which fall in the jurisdiction of the Aviation Authorities-, are created and enforced to insure the safety of the air transportation industry.

The faithful adherence to that complex system of regulations (which Aerocalifornia has not failed to comply with, as per the same Authorities) as a reason on whether flying an airline or not -opposed to a gut feeling- for me has way more value.

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eastbay
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RE: Aerocalifornia

Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:49 am

Thanks for the info, not really too worried about the safety aspect (I'm a pilot flying a DC-10, most of our airplanes are approaching 30 years old too). Glad to hear about the pretty flight attendants! It's great to see them in Tucson, a departure from all the RJ's that seem to be taking over there, and the color scheme looks straight out of the 70's. I'll try and arrange something once our November schedule becomes final.

 
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RE: Aerocalifornia

Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:13 am

Eastbay,
I wouldn't be too concerned about the actual age of the aircraft, but rather how well the old aircraft are maintained. I think it's safe to say the DC10s you fly are maintained far better than Aerocalifornia's DC9s. Your company has far more resources to invest in all areas.
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RE: Has Anyone Flown Aerocalifornia?

Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:24 am

A lot of people can talk bad things about JR, but the fact that FAA or DGAC haven't ground them as Fly727 say, I think we can trust them.. specially FAA. IMHO, if an airline flies into the United States they can fly anywhere...

I trust them a lot! And I really like the claasic livery and Dc9s! Eastbay, you should try JR, they have serious financial problems.... we dunno if they still gonna be with us in 2004.

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RE: Has Anyone Flown Aerocalifornia?

Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:54 am

Hello

I flew with them like 2 years ago. LAX-CUL. The planes are old and little scary! Nice liveries do. But yes the flight attendants are nice and helpfull.
I remember this flight because I hate a Jalapenos without knowing it and I almost died that day.  Laugh out loud Other than that the food is ok.
To renew their fleet they should go with the A318.

Chris