rockyracoon
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Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:48 am

How come Boeing cannot create a lighter version of the 737-600? It would seem to be an obvious move. I would bet many airlines would jump on the idea, such as AA and DL.

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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:51 am

Tim,

I think that the main reason would be the tremendous costs of redesigning the 737-600 airframe...
 
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:00 am

Ok when is this going to become a they should just buy the 717 thread? To make the 737-600 lighter would mean to change it significantly internally which would cause it to lose some of its commonality with the other 737s.. If someone wants the little thing its there, if not its no skin off Boeings nose, its just there in case a loyal Boeing customer starts salivating over the A318 (or as I call it "the short bus").
 
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:01 am

SAS would gladly give them away........I wish Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:08 am

HOLY CRAP! I bet Boeing has never thought of this!
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Korg747
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:13 am

The 737-600 is actully less heavy than the A318 and yet some airlines order the A318 so the issue is not the weight anymore IMHO.
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:14 am

Why doesn't Airbus make a 'light' 318? I'm not understanding the question?
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PVD757
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:35 am

It seems to me that both Airbus and Boeing cannot make a light version of their short planes, otherwise Embraer wouldn't have a leg to stand on in this market. Why would anyone add a totally seperate type of aircraft to their inventory unless the alternative is a definite wrong idea in the first palce? Not saying that the 318 or 736 do not serve a market, it just means that they will be more of a niche aircraft like the 753 is.
 
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:38 am

RockyRaccoon,

to answer your question: Boeing tends to overbuild its base aircraft, in order to have the ability to stretch them should the market dictate. It did so twice with the 762 airframe. It's also stretched the 777, 757, and of course.... 737.


The problem is, the 73G is actually the base of the 737NG line due to WN's launch, not the 736. The 738 came later, as did the 739.... each having similar aggregate costs, but lower per-seat costs.

The 736, like the A318, a direct shrink with many of the same parts/components/features (and therefore, similar weight). The 736 has exceeded the acceptable margin of seats/weight that its longer brethren share. This is a common problem with shrinks.

A319 and A332 have been notable acceptions.

The proposed 771X and A335 flopped, for this reason, before ever being launched.
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:59 am

So here is a stupid question:

I am the guy at Delta ordering new planes. I like the economics of the 737-700 but, dont need the capacity. Rather than buy a 737-600 why not buy the -700, outfit it in a combi config, and fill the rest of it up with cargo? Oh, the market picked up, I need more steats, take out the combi config, add seats, im good to go. Why is this such a tough nut to crack?
 
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:09 am

Mf3864,

simple... because the FAA is not going to certify the 736 to become a combi (nor neither any other current/future aircraft model, for that case)
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:04 am

736 is a FAT looking a/c. Like the girl you Didn't want to date in high school  Big grin
From what I've read on the forum the 736 is VERY heavy like the A318. I think DL will purchase them as a future replacement for 732. Other than that, I hope to see more than SAS operating them
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RE: Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?

Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:33 am

I was under the distinct impression the economics of the 737-600 sucked donkey nuts. Its heavy so it costs a fortune in landing fees when you consider how few seats it has and how much fuel it burns moving its heavy butt through the air. I doubt it will see many orders especially in the US.

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