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Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:52 pm

Emirates have officially launched their new product offering on the Airbus A340-500 aircraft with services set to commence from Dubai to Sydney non-stop on 1 December 2003.

Their new First Class cabins look amazing, although I was a bit disappointed with Business Class. Anyway, you can find all the details by clicking on the links below:

http://emirates.com/

http://emirates.com/AboutEmirates/EmiratesNews/emiratesnews.asp

I will hopefully be flying this new aircraft in December for my winter holidays in Lebanon.
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:03 pm

Wow, that First Class suite really looks amazing. A private mini bar at each seat is something new, isn´t it? Very nice idea!
I would love to fly on that plane someday...

Will Emirates also upgrade its C and F product on the A330 and B777 in the foreseeable future?

Daniel
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:06 pm

Doors for each seat.. sorry "suites" as they are apparently called
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:19 pm

Wow, Emirates really knows how to treat its passangers, this looks amazing.

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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:20 pm

First Class looks exceptional, the privacy screens and minibar are really innovative.

Business class is quite dissapointing, does not even recline to a fully flat position. Having to stare at that block of plastic for the whole flight.

Economy is more of the same. I love this piece "The seats are arranged in a 2-4-2 configuration (as opposed to the traditional 3-4-3 layout)" eerrr yeah that's a different aircraft type.

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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:23 pm

The first class sounds really good. But a little silly. Calling the gallery, which can be about 5metres away???
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:35 pm

Wow!  Wow!  Big thumbs up  Wow!  Big thumbs up

Love the First Class seat, cabin, lighting.. love everything!
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:36 pm

Looks absolutely amazing ! , escpecially first class , well done Emirates . however , Bizz was abit of a dissapointment - couldve had flat beds like BA , or SQ .....theyve finnaly changed the seat config as well.....
looking forword to fly them again ...
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:56 pm

Unbelievable!

Emirates will be winning awards for its F product... doors, "mode controller" that includes a digital menu, and minibar, oh my!!!

While Biz is not fully flat, it was designed very efficiently. While the pitch isn't the greatest, the seat kind of flattens to an angled incline, and there are little details, like the "mode controller" and ample center console storage that add more than a nice touch.
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:14 am

Oh well, for sure that first class is absolutely amazing. I really like the new curve ceiling on a A345 and the introduction of doors really make first class looks like a hotel in the air! Quite disappointed with the Business Class actually... expected to have flat bed there! Economy class is expected, coz cant really put anything new in it with the economy price. They could consider putting 2-3-2 (like SQ) instead of 2-4-2 to make the 16 hours + flight more comfortable!
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:21 am

Economy is more of the same. I love this piece "The seats are arranged in a 2-4-2 configuration (as opposed to the traditional 3-4-3 layout)" eerrr yeah that's a different aircraft type.

LOL, I was thinking the same thing!

First class is amazing, my God, I can't wait to move back to Dubai after seeing this!

Business class is extremely disappointing though...a very standard product.
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:41 am

One could go on at lengths as to how Emirates could have afforded this and has grown arguably inorganically into a major purchaser and upcoming major player in the airline market.



However, having said that, it is unfortunate to have to concede that the standard has been set in First Class and in terms of inflight entertainment and of course, innovation.

Airlines across the world who are not government subsidised and who do have a relatively finite pool of money will have to swim deep into consciences.

One must consider however, if there is a First Class market that can cope? So many airlines around the world are pulling First Class off the menu. British Airways are doing it to six key destinations while other airlines are introducing solely Business and Executive Economy classes to their planes. There would certainly be market however, if an airline for some reason operates full schedules to Australia for example while there is a dramatic downturn in the market and having those aircraft operate at 40% capacity. Emirates is known to offer very very cheap fares compared to other competitors and it may be on its fare "structure" rather then market realism that it has invested so much in this superior product.

The sliding doors is something that I imagined would occur on the A380-842 however, Emirates has brought this thought to advanced fruition. The First Class product and IFE / ICE as a whole is remarkable. Little technical details are known about anything though. How large are the seats? What kind of leather is used? What is the seat dimensions for the Business Class seat? Will passengers cope in 33 - 34" seat pitch over 17+ hours in Economy Class? How does the airline justify that if the seat pitch is so "small" (for that length of time anyway).

Despite all this, kudos must be given where it should be given and here at the front of the plane and in the inflight entertainment department, it must be given. I being a Singapore Airlines follower can only draw some contentment that the plane isn't flying everywhere in the Emirates route network... yet.
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:49 am

One could go on at lengths as to how Emirates could have afforded this and has grown arguably inorganically into a major purchaser and upcoming major player in the airline market.

You are wrong.

Emirates has been funded via normal means, and each of their financial reports has pointed them out. Major investors include JPMorgan Chase and Citibank as well as European institutions.

As the Chairman has said many times, Emirates has received no government money for many years.

I love how any time any manufacturer or airline does something good, we instantly point fingers at what they must have done wrong to get there.

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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:56 am

Business Class looks like it is a 160-165 degree recline. Which is very good. The only airline that beats it is BA with its lie-flat seat.
Plus, I have to say that Emirates usually have very high standards in catering and service. In any case, these are airplanes you're dealing with - not the QE2. Emirates has sensibly designed its business class product by balancing the needs of its economy class passengers versus added room for Business Class. Those extra 2 inches in Economy go a long way to build brand loyalty.
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:06 am

Well, I think he and the other die-hard fan of XXXX airlines member of * alliance blah blah blah must be disappointed. Thought they are the only carrier to offer the best in-flight product/service, no government aid, liquefied cash flow blah blah blah. On the whole they cannot tolerate …if someone else is more superior than they are.

Do not forget, when XXXX airlines announced what so-called LeaderShip fleet, new executive economy, etc… he, proud and loud shouting it out to the world for the whole world to see/listen.

the plane isn't flying everywhere in the Emirates route network... yet wait and see buddy.

Well-done EK!
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:09 am

look s really good! I like the first class, economy is the same I think.
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:42 am

Will the leased A340-300Es be getting the same treatment?

Also, anyone know when EK's routes for next year will be announced?
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:50 am

What a bunch of gimmicks!
And the flashing stars are fairly cheesy.....
Interesting...but hardly very dignified. I expected more.

Biz class looks like pod people.
 
mt99
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:56 am

Could this be the "type" of first class expected in the A380's?
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gigneil
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:05 am

Truthfully, they could have done more with Economy... but First and Business look just great.

They're also making it clear that the airplane will perform excellently - carrying 258 passengers plus 14 tons of cargo year round nonstop DXB-SFO despite DXB's extremely low density altitude isn't a simple task.

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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:08 am

The configuration, for those interested, is:

F 12 C 42 Y 204; 258 in all

F class is 4 abreast - single seats at each side of the cabin, by the window, and pairs down the middle.

C class - about time too, Maurice! - is six abreast.

Now, guys, for goodness sake, quite messing about and fly to Dublin.
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:34 am

MEA, you would probably beat me in trying out this beauty. Don't forget to board early and take heaps of photos  Big grin

I wonder when EK is going to start their second daily flights into MEL? Hopefully with the A345 as nonstops from DXB.
Does anyone know whether they got the approval for that yet?

One point worth mentioning here, is the drop in capacity on SYD route once they use this, going from 773's. I mean 380 to 258 seats?! Not to mention the cargo! And what will happen to SIN-SYD?!

About J class, for some reason it reminds me of their F class seating on their Boeing. Just the recline itself. It's about time they put 2-2-2!
As for Y, Teahan, just imagine the amazement of PAX who flew on B777's when they read '2-4-2 not 3-4-3', they will be like 'WAAWWW'  Nuts  Laugh out loud



 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:45 am

I believe the nonstop 345 will be a supplemental flight to Sydney, not a replacement.

I'd normally go to Aviation Gulf to confirm that, unfortunately, they're no longer with us. RIP.

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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:49 am

the press release mentions LAX, SFO, YVR, YYZ, ORD, JFK, EZE and GIG as possible new destinations for the A345. any other thoughts?
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:22 am

That F-class product is amazing. I see Emirates has borrowed the 777's ceiling contour for their A345  Big grin. I wonder how crash worthy those suite doors are, though; it would certainly be inconvenient if they jammed shut at an inopportune moment.

It sounds as if Emirates isn't done yet: "The new A340-500s form the spearhead of Emirates’ $26 billion aircraft order book, along with 26 Boeing 777-300 Extended Range aircraft. These in turn will feature a special new travel experience still tightly under wraps."

Any ideas as to what this may be? I can't imagine what they will do on the A380.

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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:23 am

I think the 777-300ERs will be jam packed with seats, just in a more pleasant fashion.

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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:46 am

The new flight will replace the flight which currently operates via SIN.

Instead, EK will operate a SIN-BNE flight, which will continue to AKL. It was denied permission to add a second daily SYD flight.
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:00 am

Will the existing fleet of B777s and A330s be upgraded to fit with the new standards set by the A340-500?
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:03 pm

EK does not recieve direct UAE government money, but also does not pay tax, airport fees, etc I believe.
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:42 pm

Anyone know the pitch in economy? Rumour is 36" though the normal pitch is 34" isn't it?
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:09 am

This is definitely in my opinion the best first class I've ever seen! But I must say: I don't like all that (fake?) gold and walnut-design. It looks very kitsch (read: cheap) and it doesn't look solid (just to compare it with the new F-class from AF).
But with those suites, it is definitely a huge improvement on the new first class products compared with other carriers.

This is only the best thing of the A345 from EK; I don't like their C-class (not so innovative compared to the improvement of F-class) and Y-class looks just standard.
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:12 am

Ardian,

Are you calling plenty of leg room and the largest entertainment database in economy standard? I would hate to fly any other airline in economy on a 16 hour flight. You would simply NEED this kind of entertainment on such flights.

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ardian
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:25 am

EurostarVA: yes you're right, but what I'm trying to say is, for an innovative airline like Emirates (with the example of their new F-class), I thought they would do something more to their Economy-class seats. It isn't bad, but just comparable to the economy class from other carriers (SQ Y-class on their B744's etc. for example) they are just the same. I thought they would placed a different economy class, just like SQ on their A345's did (but ok, that isn't a "real" economy class, but Executive economy or something like that). ANZ Y-class seats also offer legrests, that's just amazing!
But alright: I wouldn't mind a 16 hour flight flying EK Y-class  Smile
 
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RE: Emirates Launches A340-500 & Upgraded Classes

Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:45 am

Ardian

Emirates also offers legrests in economy class on all their B777 & A330 aircraft. I assume this will be a standard feature on all future fleets.