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Delta L-1011's

Mon Jan 03, 2000 9:11 am

Does Delta still operate the Tristar? If so, to where? Will the 767-400 replace them or when do they plan on scrapping them. Most other L-1011 operators (TWA, Cathay) have already gotten rid of these types, so why is Delta still holding on, that is, if they still have them. In Seattle, where I live, they used to operate them into SEA, but switched to the 767-300.
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Mon Jan 03, 2000 9:55 am

I am flying on one Friday from Atlanta to Orlando
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Mon Jan 03, 2000 9:56 am

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RE: Delta L-1011's

Mon Jan 03, 2000 10:15 am

I live 10 miles from CVG, and still see L-1011's everyday. Delta flies them to Europe from here. There are possibly as many as 10 L-1011's here daily.
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Mon Jan 03, 2000 10:19 am

Delta had at one point more than forty L-1011s. This was a major part of their fleet and at one time it was their primary weapon on the North Atlantic.... (before the MD-11 came onto the Atlantic scene.)

Their L-1011s are due to all have gone by April 2001, because by that time, the 17 or so that are left will have been taken away and the 767-400ER will have replaced them, along with lower capacity 767-300s etc. and on some routes, intercontinentally-configured 777s.

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RE: Meister808

Mon Jan 03, 2000 10:24 am

Delta Air Lines operates no L-1011s on international services anymore. Unfortunately, they have been replaced by both 767-300s and MD-11s. The MD-11s I love, the 767-300s are ok. but are nowhere near the quality of the L-1011.....

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RE: Meister808

Mon Jan 03, 2000 10:29 am

Delta flies no L1011 out of Cincinnati, and only fly 763 to its international flights to Europe out of there.

RE: Delta15

Mon Jan 03, 2000 10:40 am

Delta also flies the 777 and MD-11 out of Cincinnati during peak season, the MD-11 / 777 to London as DL36/37 most of the year, only occasionally performed by 767-300s when demand gets low.

the MD-11s go to Frankfurt as do the 777s occasionally.....

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RE: Delta15

Mon Jan 03, 2000 10:48 am

Im pretty sure they dont fly to frankfurt on md11s, but your right about the 777s to London I forgot all about that. Yet a few months ago I flew into CVG and they had a 763 to London because of a pilot dispute or something.

RE: Delta L-1011's

Mon Jan 03, 2000 11:24 am

Are you sure the DL L10's are to be retired by 2001?
These seems a little ambitious considering the first 767-400ER's wont arrive until fall of 2000. Plus there will only be 5 777's (so far its just two unless the whole contract/pay mess has finally ended)

It seems the Delta L10's are a relatively new aircraft in the fleet. I've heard that they will be around until at least 2005. Can anyone confirm/deny?
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Mon Jan 03, 2000 6:02 pm

The last L-1011 wil be retired in the summer of 2002.The 26 L-1011's currently in the fleet have an average age of 18.6 years
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Mon Jan 03, 2000 6:47 pm

When coming back from Tampa to ATL on New Years Eve was I not ever so pleased to see a L1011 show up in place of the timetabled B767. Use em while they last.
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Tue Jan 04, 2000 2:36 am

The first 767-400 arrives in May. They are receiving 5 or so in the first year. They are also set to receive several 767-300ER's this year, which will be used to replace the L-1011's on several routes. They will all be gone by 2001
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Delta L-1011's Cabins

Tue Jan 04, 2000 2:57 am

I recently saw the photo of DL tristar First Class cabin, and it was UGLY. The seats look old fashioned and really I think it's a shame Delta took so long to retire them from Europe !!

Of course I know the BizElite product but I think it's not normal to pay such an amont of money to fly in those ugly and old cabins.

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RE: Delta L-1011's Cabins

Tue Jan 04, 2000 3:12 am

That must have been an older Tristar, the newer ones are fitted with burgandy or blue leather seasts in first class. The L-1011-500s are even fitted with the BizElite cabin on select past international aircraft.
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Tue Jan 04, 2000 3:25 am

During the summer when we went on holiday to Honolulu we were upgraded to first class. It was really bad. The seats were so uncomfortable. It was like Swissair in coach !!
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Tue Jan 04, 2000 5:49 am

L-1011s were never fitted with BusinessElite. However, as a remnant of the days when they flew Transatlantic & Pacific flights, some -250s and -500s had three class interiors - First, Business & Coach. This is not BusinessElite.

BusinessElite replaces both First and Business Class, and it has only ever been fitted on 767-300ER, MD-11 and 777 aircraft.

Admittedly some of the L-1011 interiors have three classes, but that is not BusinessElite.

BTW BusinessElite is the best intercontinental business class that there is - its got the service of Delta's old intercontinental First Class with brand new fully electric etc. seats. Real nice and way above the European airline's services (at least in Business Class.)

Hope this helps. The L-1011 never had the exact BusinessElite cabin, only a standard First/Business/Coach interior.

Also, as I said before in this forum, all their L-1011s will be gone but July 2001 - being replaced by 767s of varying sizes (-300s and -400ERs) and 777s on certain routes. (albeit the 777s will be in the Intercontinental configuration with BusinessElite in....)

Also, it seems that BusinessElite is becoming increasingly used on domestic 767-300ER service from JFK to places such as Phoenix. Personally I think this is a good idea as some domestic flights are longer than transatlantics! And as you say, a domestically configured L-1011 is real uncomfortable in First Class compared to their 777s & BusinessElite - and they fly longer routes than the 777s if they fly ATL-HNL, when the 777s fly ATL-LGW - which is a shorter flight!

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RE: Delta L-1011's

Tue Jan 04, 2000 6:04 am

Delta operates L-1011's to/from:
FLL, MIA, TPA, MCO, DFW, LAX, SLC, but I didn't know they had them out of CVG (I thought it was all MD-11, 777 service).

Don't forget ATA...they bought several of TWA's amd Royal Jordanian's L-1011's. They totally referbeshed them, so now they are almost new! I went through N186AT, at the ATA hangar over the summer; the gave me a tour through 186, and 763 (a 727); they had hundreds and hundreds of new seats that they were putting in the Tristars and the 727's. The have sold some of there 757's to Delta, but bought 1 or 2 from Monarch.

I got off the "Delta L-1011" subject, but ohh well!

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RE: Delta L-1011's

Tue Jan 04, 2000 6:58 am

Do they not fly the 1011's out of PDX any more? I remeber there would be at least one along with the MD-11s at the end of concourse D. BTW how is the construction coming there? E-mail me at
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Tue Jan 04, 2000 9:01 am

hi! DL's current L-1001 fleet stands around 30 aircraft. Delta plans to have htem all retired by 2001, and they actually have about 5 777s in service, not two. just a correction i felt like making! Delta plans to have 5 aircraft dlievered each month from Boeing, inv=cluding the 737-800s and 767-400s plus 757s and 777s. This will all be taking place so DL can phase out older L-1011's and B-727's. then when those are gone, the MD's will follow.
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Tue Jan 04, 2000 9:32 am

Delta is NOT planning to get rid of the MD-11s anytime soon. In fact, they need them because of Trans-pac routes. The MD-11s ain't going nowhere!

The MD-90s will be disposed of as soon as possible, altho no date has currently been set - probably around the same time as the 727s in 2005.

The MD-88s are not going anywhere soon either as they are Delta's most second most numerous type of airliner - second only to the 727.

All L-1011s will be gone by June (or there abouts) 2001.

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RE: Delta L-1011's

Tue Jan 04, 2000 9:46 am

For those of you interested ...below is a good sight to see Delta's L1011s that are for sale. If you look you will see that the last one for sale is'nt available until April 2002..Plus...not their whole fleet is listed....The ones marked only "sale" are already stored and wfu.
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RE: Delta L-1011's

Tue Jan 04, 2000 10:09 am

I also hate to see the L-1011 go. I travel at least every other week to Florida and at least once a month to Boston. I'll often work my schedule around Delta's
L-1011 scheduled service just to be on one of those great planes. More often than not I'm on the planes that once belonged to Air Canada. (They still have the "No Smoking" signs in French.) I'd take an L-10 over almost any other plane... except maybe when my business is in Orlando. Then I'll get the 777 flight from Atlanta.  

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