AvObserver
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A380 Progress Article

Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:38 am

Just a tidbit for those who don't frequent this website.

http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/10273top.xml
 
artsyman
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:30 am

In the last few months, 7,000 pavement tests have been completed without noticeable difficulties, confirming that maximum load will remain below Boeing 777 levels
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Will be interested to see how the acheive this when the plane will carry way more cargo, twice as many passengers and their bags, and then the size of the plane itself.

 
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:51 am

wow, it's quite impressive to see it all actually take shape.

she's going to be a monster.

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RE: A380 Progress Article

Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:39 pm

Will be interested to see how the acheive this when the plane will carry way more cargo, twice as many passengers and their bags, and then the size of the plane itself

It will achieve this by distributing the weight across many more wheels.
 
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:47 pm

It will achieve this by distributing the weight across many more wheels.
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It doesn't say that it will distribute the weight better, it says that it will be lighter.
 
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:00 pm

One of the stated goals of the A380 program was to make sure the weight distribution won't damage the concrete on runways and taxiways at airports. That's why Airbus has a special test rig running up and down the runways and taxiways at Toulouse airport (TLS) that simulates the weight load and distribution of weight load of a real A380; that rig has been in operation since 2001 or so.
 
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:10 pm

It doesn't say that it will distribute the weight better, it says that it will be lighter.

I read the article pretty thorougly, and I don't believe it says that anywhere. It says runway load will remain below 777 levels.

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RE: A380 Progress Article

Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:42 pm

Ok, I took something different from it, but I can understand your point also

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RE: A380 Progress Article

Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:48 am

Thanks for the link Jeffrey!
Nice article. This thing is going to be huge!

PW100

PS. Quite impressive these days, 33 airframes to be produced per month by Airbus for Q4 . . . .
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:26 am

I shamefully neglected at the time I posted this to mention my unbridled admiration for the sheer fiscal efficiency of this program. $10.7 billion USD (sorry Eurofans, I only get my numbers in dollars; feel free to throw in Euros figures) is an amazingly small total for a program of such a huge scale. Many predicted a program cost of $12-15 billion USD for such a venture. I think that spending a fair number of years defining the A3XX prior to the December, 2000 program launch paid off handsomely for Airbus. Now, I assume whatever money was spent prior to the launch likely isn't included in the $10.7 billion tally so it may be closer to a $12 billion program but still, the fiscal responsibility in this program is admirable. Some of my occasional airplane 'chat' buddies are disappointed there isn't a bigger proportion of composites in A380 construction but I say Airbus is absolutely making the right move here, using only the amount needed to meet their weight targets and not going too far out on a limb with it, given the unprecendented size and weight. Staying with proven alloys wherever possible is the responsible move, to minimize risk and maximize chances of success. Although I don't consider the A380 (or the 7E7, for that matter) a truly revolutionary airplane, it is nevertheless an exceedingly important airplane, one which sets new design and manufacturing standards that I hope Boeing will emulate as it embarks on the equally important 7E7 effort. The European community is well-justified in having a high sense of multi-national pride in the A380. Looks to be a winner!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Sat Nov 01, 2003 9:25 pm

that's a very interesting article.
Tx for the link.
If you want to see more pictures of the development,just visit Airbus.com
You will find on the A380 pages, a button called A380 Navigator.
Yon a time scale and a map, you can select sites and development steps. You will see press articles and los of pictures.
Have fun
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:12 pm

The A 380 is still smaller than the AN 225. Right?
 
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:49 pm

the an225 has a MTOW of 600 tons. so who knows maybe an A388F HGW will beat that. but i think they currently say 590ton MTOW will be the limit of the A388F, so i guess we have to wait for the HGW/X/IGW/whatever u wanna call it version
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Sat Nov 01, 2003 11:14 pm

That's right, the An-225 is still bigger. Zak already compared the MTOWs, and as far as the overall length is concerned, the A380 fits inbetween the C-5 Galaxy which is a little longer as well and the good ol' 744.
It wouldn't surprise if, in 2006, some people say "Hey, I thought this thing would be much longer than a 747!"
Something REAL big, however, will be the wing span (261ft 10in / 79,80m - around 50ft or 15m longer than a 744) and the wing area (9.100ft2 / 845m2 compared to the 744's 541m2).

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RE: A380 Progress Article

Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:06 am

Another pic of A380 assembly, in case you're interested - the first wing.
Small: http://www.airbus.com/MultimediaElements/2301.jpg
Large: http://www.airbus.com/MultimediaElements/2308.jpg
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:10 am

Additional information:
This week, the enlarged road between Langon and Toulouse has been tested with real size mockup.
Even if the truck were driving during the night, it was amazing to see so many people along the road. It was like the tour de France.
If you are near Beauvais, Nov. 19, you will be able to see the Belouga, loading the nose cone.
(Check the airbus web site, for any change on this date)
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RE: A380 Progress Article

Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:29 am

Bobrayner: thanks for the link. That picture is startling when you look at the people in the lower left for scale.

In that AvWeek article linked by AvObserver, the figure that startled me most was that Glare accounts for only 3% of the structural weight. That stuff must be really light!

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